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Old 01-06-2019, 10:05 PM   #1
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3/4 ton advice

Planning to upgrade my tow vehicle (2010 F150 SCrew 4x4 w max tow pkg) to 3/4 ton gasser. TT is 2014 Coachmen FE LE 31BHDS, 35 ft long, approx. 8000# as towed. I been fairly satisfied with even the old 5.4 as far as powertrain goes, so I am considering all 3 mfr.s trucks equally. I am wondering if anyone out there has experience towing a similar TT with two or all three of the 3/4 ton trucks (recent models) in terms of handling the trailer on the interstate with semis, crosswinds, etc. to see if they are going to be equal in that regard. Thanks,

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Planning to upgrade my tow vehicle (2010 F150 SCrew 4x4 w max tow pkg) to 3/4 ton gasser. TT is 2014 Coachmen FE LE 31BHDS, 35 ft long, approx. 8000# as towed. I been fairly satisfied with even the old 5.4 as far as powertrain goes, so I am considering all 3 mfr.s trucks equally. I am wondering if anyone out there has experience towing a similar TT with two or all three of the 3/4 ton trucks (recent models) in terms of handling the trailer on the interstate with semis, crosswinds, etc. to see if they are going to be equal in that regard. Thanks,

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I have a GMC 2500 and tow a similar TT. New at this, but I cannot think of towing with lest than a 3/4 ton. I like my 8.1 Ltr and trans, but hear good things out the GM diesel and Allison tranny as well. I can accelerate up a hill while towing, so Iíve got that going for me. No experience with RAMs and F250s, but have heard good things about both.
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Old 01-06-2019, 10:56 PM   #3
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Thanks. With the Coachmen loaded properly and my Equalizer hitch, semis are not too bad with the 150 but when mother nature provides the crosswind it can be a challenge to keep it in the lane. The diesels are great when towing, but probably 95% of the time the truck will be driving me to work, getting groceries, etc. I have friends with diesels that use them similarly to me and they all have problems with the new emissions "stuff" on them. Plus, I live a pretty long way from the nearest station that sells diesel. I think the gas trucks will be my best choice. Thanks again!
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I have a 9500-pound 5'ver now, but used to tow a 28-foot TT (was 33-foot when adding in rear bumper and tongue) that weighed 8000-pounds when loaded with my 2015 Chevy 2500HD 6.0L gasser with 4.10 rear end through the mountains of Colorado, Wyoming, New Mexico and Arizona and I could barely tell it was back there.

Even though I was told I didn't need the WDH setup I used it anyway.
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So my North Trail was about the same weight and length as your TT. I towed it with 4 different trucks ( wish I had good reason as too why I trade so often) first was a 2012 Ram 2500 diesel no problems going or stopping. Trailer sway was horrible at highway speed. So I bought equalizer 4 point WD hitch problem solved. Traded that on 2014 Tundra sagged real bad made me happy I had equalizer. Towed from West Texas to Oregon including trip to Lake Tahoe and dry camping close to Crater Lake and back felt like I could pass anything except gas station. Traded that in for 2014 F150 platinum 4x4 eco boost told myself better mileage and larger tank. Only towed to East Texas not as zippy as Tundra no mountains but think it would have been ok. Wife wanted 5th wheel so I upgraded to a 2016 f350 with power stroke pulled TT with it a few times East Texas Ft Davis and Ruidosa didnít even know it was there but still needed sway control
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dbctmc:

My disclaimer: "I'm a Ford guy; however, my truck is no better or worse than any of the other manufacturers' trucks. It fits MY needs and others' needs will be different to dictate what vehicle they drive."

The swap from a 1/2 to a 3/4 ton is a big step but can be a very beneficial and wise one."

Here's my story:

The trailer in my signature is 7500 pounds while towing and is 30' ball to bumper. While it's a bit smaller, please read on.

When we bought the trailer, I towed it with my '11 Ecoboost, SuperCrew, 4wd, 5 1/2' bed & 3.55 gears. It was leveled on 33" tires that made the gear ratio drive like it had 3.43 gearing. Power-wise, the F150 towed the trailer with ease. I averaged 9 mpg and there was always enough pedal to accelerate. That being said, it was always happiest climbing long hills at 62mph in about 3rd gear and running at about 3500-3800 RPMs. Handling and stopping was adequate (safe and at or below each weight limit) but no matter how much I adjusted the hitch, moved cargo around in both the truck and trailer and weighed everything, the combo never really felt "planted" on the road.

Due to some mechanical issues with the Eco at relatively low miles (71k), I decided to part ways with that truck and upgrade to the one in my signature. My two deciding factors for upgrading were:
1. A growing family requiring more payload to better handle the human and camping cargo.
2. I wanted the simplicity of a standard V formation engine without turbos, emissions systems, and complexity of Ecoboost/diesel, etc.

Both the old and new trucks were of the steel body generation, XLT packages with nearly identical interior layouts. The newer F250 gained me an additional 1200 pounds of payload, an extra 15" of bed and 12" more wheelbase sans turbos. With the F250 able to tow more and handle more payload, the truck itself has room to spare rather than running at 100% capacity while towing the trailer.

This has led to a much pleasurable towing experience. The truck feels "planted" on the road and in control of the trailer at all times. In my case, while towing the trailer, the weight of the F250 is more than the trailer. The longer wheelbase, heavier front end and bigger brakes on the Super Duty really tow the trailer much better. And, acceleration is just as good as the F150 was (that was one of my biggest concerns).

The real downside to a 3/4 ton truck is they don't ride nearly as smooth as an F150.

That's my $0.02.

Also, watch both of the following youtube videos from Wandering Weekends. This family started with a F150 and now have a F250. See what they have to say. His opinion is real world and none of the "Gotta have a diesel or you're inferior" BS:

Towing with a Gas F250 or EcoBoost F150?? We've had both

EcoBoost to Gas F-250... 7 Month Update... Regrets??

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Wondering why you are set on a gasser?

When we upgraded everything this past year, we went diesel. This was mainly to make fueling easier. You have a TT similar in length to yours, and finding RV friendly gas pumps can be difficult. Now I just pull in with the big boys and don't worry about fuel stops.

As far as pulling, with the 3/4, and towing about 7500 lbs all loaded up, with an e2 WDH, it's an easy pull. We're only about 2/3 of our total capacity, and the diesel just rolls. No sway and a stress proof drive.
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Wondering why you are set on a gasser?
1. If you're not pulling 10k pounds or more the diesel isn't needed.

2. The overall lifetime cost of a gasser is cheaper.

3. And, the gasser will have a higher payload compared to an identical, diesel powered truck.

Those were my reason.

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My brother is pulling a heavier trailer with a Ram 3500 SB SWR CrewCab with the 6.4L. That motor is very strong. He has no trouble. I recommend getting the same truck 3500 instead of 2500. It will cost almost nothing to have the 3500 and you will be good for the future for payload. It may seem right now like you wonít go bigger but we all do and trading trucks ainít cheap plus you wonít have to worry at all about payload. His is over 4000 lbs.

And I agree with Clarkbre the gasser is cheaper. Any of the big three trucks will do well but I love my Ram. The Uconnect radio is just awesome easy to use and itís very helpful.Click image for larger version

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Hereís one of my best friendís new Ford 2500 gasser. Very pretty.

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....I recommend getting the same truck 3500 instead of 2500. It will cost almost nothing to have the 3500 and you will be good for the future for payload...
I agree with this as well. The step up from a 250/2500 to 350/3500 is usually a very minimal (if any) cost but the upgrade in payload capacity can be huge.

In my case, the configuration wasn't available in the F350. If my current truck had been a F350, I wouldn't have hesitated to buy it.
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