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Old 03-25-2013, 03:47 PM   #1
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320 Freedom Express

Do you guys think I can haul the 320 express with a half ton z71 suburban? i belive the towing capacity is 8400lbs or 8500lbs on the ride. Thanks
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Old 03-25-2013, 03:54 PM   #2
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Do you guys think I can haul the 320 express with a half ton z71 suburban? i belive the towing capacity is 8400lbs or 8500lbs on the ride. Thanks
I own a 320 freedom express. In a word: NO. You could post up your exact vehicle specifications and we can run the numbers to see how close you might be, but at the number you posted, NO.

Mine was over your towing capacity delivered. Even if you deleted some options, you are never going to be under your towing capacity.

However, that is the least of your worries. The tongue weight is over your CCC (cargo carrying capacity) anyway.

I know that Coachmen claims these are 1/2 ton towable, and theoretically if you had one of the newer 1/2 ton trucks with the max tow package it is numerically possible. But really, this is not advisable.
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Likely not. Your biggest challenge is the amount of payload/cargo carrying capacity of the 'burb. Out of this number comes you, all passengers, all your stuff *and* 10-15% of the camper's weight in the form of tongue weight. Usually there isn't enough left over after the driver, passengers and gear for the amount of tongue weight that the campers use.

I wrote a page about this. See if it's helpful in describing it:
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appreciate the quick responses... i believe the dealer had the wt of trailer at 7412lbs and the is not the liberty edition. it is the basic freedom package.
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Scooper - the weight is one of those wildcards. Even if you look at the yellow sticker on the camper (that generally does include battery and propane), it's still not always a realistic weight as it doesn't include anything that you add - from the first piece of clothing to pots and pans to batteries for flashlights and whatnot.

I can be described as "overly cautious" at times, but I prefer to use the gross weight of the camper for my calculations as it's the maximum that your camper will likely weigh.

That said, the dry sticker weight of 7,412 pounds will give you a tongue weight of 740-1,110 pounds. Most campers are generally towards the higher end of that range. After adding yourself, all your passengers, weight distributing hitch and all the "stuff" you carry, does your 'burb have that much carrying capacity?
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appreciate the quick responses... i believe the dealer had the wt of trailer at 7412lbs and the is not the liberty edition. it is the basic freedom package.
so that is going to take off the 15k A/C, the larger fridge and fireplace, don't think those things add up to 500 lbs but maybe they do. My yellow sticker was 7949, but it weighed well over 8K when it went across the scales with a few things in it. Loaded to camp we are at about 9200 lbs. If you take 500 lbs off that you are maybe in the ball park of your theoretical tow capacity, but you need to look at your CC, the truck and GVWR and the GCVWR as well.
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:09 PM   #7
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fredom express 320

what i just found on door is the following....
gvwr 7200
gawr frt 3450
cawr rr 4000
i am not sure to even figure my truck wt with out a scale.

this camper does have the 15kw a/c unit. standard fridge and no fireplace
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What year is the truck? And do you have a white/yellow sticker that looks like this:

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2003 5.3l vortec, the numbwers i gave came off the only sticker I see. this one did have the same data reffering to tires and such but it is not yellow
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Looking on the AOL Autos specs page, it looks like you have a curb weight of 5,219 lbs. Any options that you have added to the vehicle will increase this amount. But, this implies that you might have about 2,000 pounds of payload to work with (7,200 gvwr - 5,200 curb weight). I'll admit this is quite a bit higher than I would have guessed.

Is there any way that you could load the family up and pack a mock-load like you were going camping and then go hit a truck stop scale to get accurate weights? It looks like there are CAT scales just up and down the highway from you in Adel or down in Valdosta.

Basically- getting weighed takes all of the guess work out of it things.
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