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Old 08-30-2013, 12:21 PM   #31
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Still would appreciate the type of F150 (cabtype, WB, axle ratio, engine) that has over 3000 lbs payload. The online configuration tool on ford.com never gave me those numbers which would convince me. 2200 lbs max the max?
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Old 08-30-2013, 12:25 PM   #32
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Regular cab 4X2 145" wheelbase with 5.0 liter...3120 lbs..

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Old 08-30-2013, 12:27 PM   #33
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with Heavy Duty Payload Package of course...:-)
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Old 08-30-2013, 12:45 PM   #34
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Still would appreciate the type of F150 (cabtype, WB, axle ratio, engine) that has over 3000 lbs payload. The online configuration tool on ford.com never gave me those numbers which would convince me. 2200 lbs max the max?
Agreed. And I'm still floored... I never would have guessed!
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Old 08-30-2013, 12:52 PM   #35
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The other factor to consider is the curb weights, a F150 is approx 4700 lbs with a max payload of 3120 lbs whereas a F250 is approx 6600 lbs. with a max payload of 3700 lbs. IMO having the extra 2000 or so lbs makes a big difference when the trailer is going over some rough spots and seems to have a mind of its own sometimes...
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Old 08-30-2013, 01:34 PM   #36
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The other factor to consider is the curb weights, a F150 is approx 4700 lbs with a max payload of 3120 lbs whereas a F250 is approx 6600 lbs. with a max payload of 3700 lbs. IMO having the extra 2000 or so lbs makes a big difference when the trailer is going over some rough spots and seems to have a mind of its own sometimes...

This is a really good point.

This is the main factor I would advise not pulling a 5er or heavy TT with a half ton. When the trailer is steering the truck due to the lack of weight on the TV side of the equation things can get scary really fast...

My previous trailer, grey wolf 26dbh was a great fit for my 1500 hemi. I could pull it with ease through hills and had no complaints what so ever. When I switched to the 2500 cummins man was it nice! I felt so much more in control of the trailer! My only complaint now is that the fuel tank lasts longer than my pee tank does and I am stopping at rest stops to relieve myself between fill ups!
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I had an experience driving on a 4 lane highway that I expected to be fairly smooth but as it turns out there was a few miles where the road could of been used for Olympic Mogul skiing and I was happy to have the extra weight.

lol....I hear that, 160 liters of diesel lasts a longggg time...
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Old 08-30-2013, 04:33 PM   #38
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By payload does that mean the same as GVAW? (Gross Vehicle Axel Weight) It's the GVAW that you really need to look at. The actual weight will be calculated by weighing the truck and knowing what the weight is on the rear axle. The truck should be fully loaded with a full tank of gas. Add this to the estimated weight of the hitch. Add this to the pin weight of the trailer. This is the number that must not exceed the GVAW. As I posted earlier, this is the number that drove my nuts and limited the number of RV's I could consider for purchase without exceeding limits. The maximum pin weight I could have was around 1200 pounds. That's why I bought a F250 which really opened up the variety of RV's that I considered for my first 5W.
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Well, essentially payload is the difference between the GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating...max your truck can weigh) minus what the truck weighs empty but yes you don't want to exceed what the rear axle is rated for. When gauging the actual max pin weight for a fifth wheel you have to take into account everything in the truck, so payload minus passengers, luggage, beer, etc...whatever is left is your max pin weight...
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And don't forget the weight of the 5er hitch, which is not insignificant.
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