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01-08-2016, 06:01 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Australia
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5th wheeler level, towing.
I have a 2013 Chev Silverado Longbed 2500HD, when i attach the wheeler to my ute the wheeler sits high at the front, if i lower the hitch i risk the wheeler hitting the top of my ute sides. its a decision of whether i raise the chassis on the wheeler or the tyre size the tyres don't have a great gap between them now so tyre size could be a problem, is raising the chassis going to cause top heavy towing issues ?. or can i lower the actual ute on the rear end ?. advice would be great.
Regards
Steve
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01-08-2016, 06:13 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Idaho
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Easy would be an axle flip.
Next would be a lift kit for what ever axles are under your unit.
What TT do you tow?
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01-08-2016, 06:53 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Seaford, De
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is your truck lifted and do you have stock size tires?
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01-08-2016, 08:04 PM
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Junior Member
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My Chev is stock. It's like my wheeler tyres are not high enough but I have the axles under my van that use the nylon blocks that twist against each other for the ride. In which they are set close together so if I was to put taller tyres on it the gap between the is close and that will only be closer I'm not sure that I could even fit taller tyres on it without them getting to close.
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01-08-2016, 08:11 PM
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Left Coast
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: vancouver,washington
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Lower the tow vehicle
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01-08-2016, 09:40 PM
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Senior Member
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would not lower tow vehicle if it's stock like you say. I would raise 5th wheel by doing an axle flip like others suggested
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01-08-2016, 09:51 PM
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Left Coast
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YOU can't flip torsion axles...
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01-08-2016, 09:59 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bob caldwell
YOU can't flip torsion axles...
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your right. They can't be. I didn't realize at first that's what he was describing.
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01-08-2016, 10:05 PM
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Left Coast
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: vancouver,washington
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Also, when level'n trailer for tow'n, if it's 4" high in front, you only need to lower that end 2"........pivot point is the axles..
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01-09-2016, 01:14 PM
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Ontario Canada
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My last trailer was not level when I purchased a used F350 with 20 in wheels. The pin box and 5th wheel we adjusted to the max. Gary Wheeler at Morryde solved our issue in about a day. The removed the axles and Morryde suspension and welded on a 4 inch square tube direct to under the frame then re attached the axles and suspension. The trail was perfect and towed better then originally. The extra height was great when you wanted to work under the fifth wheel. Only problem as we had to carry a folding step to place at the bottom of the folding stairs because of the difference in height. To me that solution was better then flipping the axles.
Good luck!!
safe travels
Wayne
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01-09-2016, 02:38 PM
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 247
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truck/trailer heights
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve13
I have a 2013 Chev Silverado Longbed 2500HD, when i attach the wheeler to my ute the wheeler sits high at the front, if i lower the hitch i risk the wheeler hitting the top of my ute sides. its a decision of whether i raise the chassis on the wheeler or the tyre size the tyres don't have a great gap between them now so tyre size could be a problem, is raising the chassis going to cause top heavy towing issues ?. or can i lower the actual ute on the rear end ?. advice would be great.
Regards
Steve
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I'm dealing with the same issue now. My '09 Ram 2500 is too tall for my Rockwood 5th wheel, but I've just lived with it. However, I'm about to trade for a 2016 Ram 2500 which sits about 2" taller than my current truck. My trailer has to be raised. As has been said, torsion axles can't be flipped, so I've considered a lift kit sold by Dexter, new "taller" axles, and a custom-fabricated lift. I've spoken with my Rockwood dealer, Dexter, and two frame shops; all suggest that a custom lift would be the best solution. I've gotten two estimates: $600 and $1500. They'd install 2x3" square tube spacers between the frame and axles, and 2x2" or 2x3" cross-members to reduce flex due to the added height. Of course this might necessitate modification to the steps.
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01-09-2016, 05:53 PM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Sodus Point NY
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Mine rides hi in a Chev 3500 dually. Our 5th is triple axle. Right or wrong I haul as is. I assume the tire load is higher in rear and those tires may need replacing sooner.
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01-09-2016, 06:00 PM
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Left Coast
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: vancouver,washington
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$600/1500......which way to go....hmmm....lowered my whole truck for less than $75.
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01-09-2016, 06:04 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: California
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Look at youtube video tow all for 5th wheels. I don't know the price but I am going to look into this when I upgrade from my 30ft TT. It seems to eliminate all type of towing problems and ad several safety features. We have a 2013 ram 2500 mega cab. 5.7 hemi. Seems I could haul a heavier 5th wheel without having to buy a diesel in the future. This may solve your problems without all those modifications.
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01-09-2016, 08:48 PM
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Swift2
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Concord
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Did you notice any problem when turning tight with the axles twisting at the spring location with the lift kit in place ?
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01-10-2016, 12:29 AM
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Senior Member
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My fiver rides high in the front, on my chevy's too. I can't flip the axles because they are already under the springs. I think they just make them that way. I want to get the axle allinement kit, which will raise the fiver about 2" which will bring it closer to level.
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01-12-2016, 09:28 AM
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Member
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Location: EDGEWATER MD.
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Hi guys. A friend of mine delivered new units for a while with a 2013 Ram 3500 4WD. He had to lower the rear of the truck, one of the requirements of the company he was contracted to. He removed the bottom leaf from the spring pack, the one just above the rear axle. It's very short and thick. Do one side at a time so the rear will remain stable. If not the rear will want to move all over the place. I think he put the leaf on top of the spring pack. Just an option that worked for him. No clearance problems.
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01-12-2016, 10:12 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Tipp City, OH
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There is a lift kit for torsion axle trailers available. I think it raises camper 2-3 inches and available for under $200.
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01-12-2016, 12:14 PM
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Left Coast
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And when you sell it?
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01-12-2016, 12:20 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bob caldwell
And when you sell it?
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The next person doesn't have to worry about it. If their truck is lower, just lower the pin box or raise the hitch, simple.
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