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Old 10-13-2013, 06:49 PM   #11
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Go for the diesel...just traded my 2013 6.2L gasser for the 6.7L Diesel. Pulling a 8000lb TT and went from 8.9 mpg with the gas to 14.2 with the diesel...the economy alone makes up for the difference in price...don't make the mistake I made...completely happy now.
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Old 10-14-2013, 12:22 AM   #12
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I recommend you get an F350 for the increased payload you get over an F250, it's going to be worth it in the long run. As far as diesel vs gas I think it comes down to your future plans. If you're thinking big 5'er down the road then I'd recommend a diesel. I've towed with both and now that I have I can't imagine not pulling with my diesel F350.
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Old 10-14-2013, 12:46 AM   #13
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To help make your decision, look at torque specs @RPM. I can only speak for the Dodge Cummins 5.9L that we own. We get 625 pounds of torque at 1500 RPM. A Dodge gas 10 cyl. will get close to that torque, but requires 7000 RPM to do it. I have towed a 10,000# 30 ft. 5th wheel with a 454 Chev 1 ton gasser and it ran hot, and lagged on hills. Towing the same 5th wheel with the Diesel I can accelerate up long 7% grades, in Drive with the A/C on. Towing with the Diesel we got 12 to14 mph towing the 5er, now we get 17 to 19 mpg towing a VCross vibe. The mileage depends on the use of our A/C and mountain driving.

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Old 01-03-2014, 09:10 PM   #14
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6.2 vs 6.7

Owned a 2011 F250 6.2 CC and feel it is a great power plant as long as you keep it below the Ford ratings. I really did not like the higher RPM under load. My fiver comes in about 11500 loaded. A trip out to the Rockies convinced me to trade up to the 2012 F350 6.7. Makes all the difference if you tow regularly. The added hp and torque is worth the extra cost in fuel and maint. I have seen a significant increase in the MPG with the 6.7 so it balances out fuel wise. The 6.7 is not a good daily driver though. It is happiest under load.
So far it is everything I wanted in a truck. A little over 10k miles and not a glitch. Absolutely solid. Could not be happier.
Good luck with which ever selection you make.
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Old 01-10-2014, 11:06 AM   #15
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A Dodge gas 10 cyl. will get close to that torque, but requires 7000 RPM to do it.

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I think you have a typo here. I seriously doubt you could even get a V10 Dodge to run to 7K, and if you did you'd encounter some serious valvetrain problems before long. Most V10 engines produce max torque in the low 3K RPM range. Large V8 engines tend to peak in the low to mid 4K range and small V8's tend to peak in the upper 4's and lower 5's.
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Old 01-10-2014, 11:45 AM   #16
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Every year the gas engines seem to get better. $.80 difference for diesel over gas, $62.00 for a new diesel fuel filter, that's just for the part, every 15,000 miles, $90.00 oil change every 5,000 miles. Same fuel mileage empty as a new gasser...This thing is killing me. Sure a new gas powered truck won't tow as well, but towing only accounts for 25% of my annual miles...I'll go with a gasser next time and it won't happen soon enough..
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On the fuel mileage disparagy while towing, I have the 6.2 and my brother has the 6.7, and the cost difference for every 100 miles of towing is about $4.00 more on the 6.2 . We have similar 5th wheels, both 36 feet in length.

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Old 01-10-2014, 01:16 PM   #18
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If not for the emissions controls and ULSD mandate, I think we'd be seeing diesel cheaper than gas, 25mpg+ on the highway, engines good for 400,000 miles plus, and diesel options for $3K less. That would be a winning combo. Basically a newer 5.9 Cummins with increased output. As things now stand you have to really NEED a diesel to justify the expense. If you've got money to burn and don't have to justify it, then sure, diesel is the way to go.
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Old 01-10-2014, 01:18 PM   #19
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"Just so you know there is little difference between the F250 and the F350, and they are rated the same."
Nope.
The truck I ordered is being built right now.
The max GVWR for an F250 is 10,000 lbs.
The SRW F350's start at 10,000 lbs.
2014 Ford Super Duty | View Payload Specifications | Ford.com

Real world numbers are given on the Ford web site.
Look at the towing spec for 5th wheel towing with 3.73 Axle Ratio SRW:

The GCWR (combined weight of truck and trailer)

F250 max 19,000

F350 Max 30,000

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Go for the diesel...just traded my 2013 6.2L gasser for the 6.7L Diesel. Pulling a 8000lb TT and went from 8.9 mpg with the gas to 14.2 with the diesel...the economy alone makes up for the difference in price...don't make the mistake I made...completely happy now.

With what Combined Weight?

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