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Old 01-07-2016, 09:32 AM   #21
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I love manual transmissions. Prefer them. BUT, I have an automatic in my towing truck. Too much clutch bumping trying to back the trailer into a tight spot; especially if it is backing uphill. Also, in the big rolling hills "out west", the manual trans truck that I had previously wouldn't hold the top gear on uphill. So, every hill was "upshift on the the downhill, downshift on the uphill". After miles and miles of that, it gets to be a real nuisance.

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Old 01-07-2016, 11:40 AM   #22
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I drove a big truck (13 speed, 10 speeds) for 5 years (back in the 70's) so I have no problem with a stick. But if you're backing up a hill, into a parking spot, the auto sure is nice.


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Old 01-07-2016, 12:05 PM   #23
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I have towed a 5th wheel for a couple of decades. Had manual transmissions behind 2 Cummins and grateful for the day I traded for a Duramax/Allison. My problem was connecting to the 5th wheel using the manual transmission. Back up, put in neutral, set brake, get out and check alignment, get in, foot on brake, release emergency brake, hunt for sweet spot to drop transmission in gear, ease off clutch, brake, and the repeat the whole mess over, and sometimes over again. I have a couple of 70+ HP tractors on my small ranch, so working the clutch with the left leg wasn't the problem. It was the prolonged sequence of events, and cranky manual transmissions, that ultimately convinced me to go to the automatic transmission. Now it's put it in park, get out, look and put it back in gear. No fuss, no bother.

Insofar as towing, the Cummins with a manual was great. Only significant problem was the comparative difficulty to hookup and unhook. Suspect same with any manual transmission.
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Old 01-07-2016, 12:47 PM   #24
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When looking at purchasing a 5th wheel trailer a few years ago, the dealer advised us not to get a truck with manual transmission. His reason was trying to downshift to a lower gear when going down a long and steep grade like some highways have in the Smokies and out west in the Rockies. If you miss a gear with a 14,000+ trailer pushing, then "kattie bar the door" - you're going for a ride! Just his opinion, but I think he had a valid comment.
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Old 01-07-2016, 01:57 PM   #25
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a lot of the big rigs are going to auto transmissions in them must be a reason?
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Old 01-07-2016, 03:16 PM   #26
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I learned how to drive on a stick still have a couple and all I can say living some what close to Chicago SHIFTING SUCKS.

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Old 01-07-2016, 04:51 PM   #27
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thanks. the 96 i have is in very good shape 215,000 miles on the od.i have got it running good.i can get the 2001 realy cheap but i would have to do alot of work.they said it wont stay in 4th gear(needs a sencro + other problems).plus the 2001 has 416,000 miles on it.i know my 96 has a e4od in it but it seems to shift strong.i think i will keep what i have or find another truck with fewer miles on it for a decent price.thanks for all the input.
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Old 01-07-2016, 04:54 PM   #28
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hey big toe it is a zf trans. i assume they are hard to rebuild.thanks
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Old 01-07-2016, 05:12 PM   #29
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My cousin drives a semi loaded with milk products into the San Francisco bay area and it has a Auto he loves it. I think as the years go by you will see a lot of the big truck and auto manufactures will be Automatic's. It is getting harder to find a stick in newer trucks and cars and if it is a option then it cost more. As automatics get more sophisticated with electronics and heaver duty with more gear ratios than the stick will soon be history.

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Old 01-07-2016, 05:24 PM   #30
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Call your local Ford dealer ask for the parts department and give him the last 8 of the VIN number they will be able to tell you what transmission is in that vehicle that you're looking to purchase if it's a ZF model it's going to be very hard to find parts for because of the age. Ford routinely like other manufacturers discontinued parts as vehicle's age out.

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