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Old 01-06-2016, 06:43 PM   #1
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6spd or auto trans

I have a 96 f-250 7.3 powerstroke with an auto trans. i have found a 2001 f-250 powerstroke with a 6spd trans.i have never pulled my 27' travel trailer with a stick.just wanted to see some pros and cons.there maybe some things i have not thought about with a stick. other than my left foot killing me and a hill at a red light. thanks
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First gear (creeper or growler) takes the worry out of those hills at red lights. I have a 2003 6 sp with the 5.4 in a F-250. I ordered it that way. No worry about trans temps or fluid levels. No wondering about what gear you're in. You pick it. No tow/haul. Ford said I had to change the trans oil at 100,000. Thought I wouldn't have to but did. No clutch issues in 138,000 plus miles and we've towed a 6600 lb tt across the country and hauled a 9 and a half foot slide in to AK and back. Downside, wife won't drive it (red lights on a hill).
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I wish mine had the manual trans. There is a reason big trucks have manuals in them. My dads 97 F250 7.3 has a 5 speed in it and tows with it a lot and loves it. I personally think they are stronger with the manual and his gets better mileage than the same trucks with the automatic.


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I was told the manuals have less HP then autos.


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I was told the manuals have less HP then autos.


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That is definitely not the case. The engines have the exact same output of power but you have much more power loss through an automatic. Manuals put the power to the ground much better because there is no slippage which always exists in the auto until reach cruise speed and the transmission goes into full lock up.


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That is definitely not the case. The engines have the exact same output of power but you have much more power loss through an automatic. Manuals put the power to the ground much better because there is no slippage which always exists in the auto until reach cruise speed and the transmission goes into full lock up.


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That is false.

The CUMMINS is de rated behind a manual.

As of 2015, 660 ft lbs manual

If you have the aisin trans, auto, you get 865.

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Old 01-06-2016, 10:11 PM   #7
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thanks for the input.i cant speak for the ram or anything newer.pre 2000 i know sticks were better for torq and hp.the new autos dont lose as much power as they use to.dodge probably could not find a stick that was rated for the big six and had to detune the motor(that is a guess for me).
terry2608 that would be my draw back. the wife.my son is 15 so i think he could mash the clutch when i get wore out,but he has not pulled the tt before.that would be a ride for me.
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I have a 96 f-250 7.3 powerstroke with an auto trans. i have found a 2001 f-250 powerstroke with a 6spd trans.i have never pulled my 27' travel trailer with a stick.just wanted to see some pros and cons.there maybe some things i have not thought about with a stick. other than my left foot killing me and a hill at a red light. thanks
I have been driving manual trans trucks on and off for over 30 years. Your left foot won't kill you and the shifting becomes so routine you will shift without even thinking about it. You won't have any trouble on hills. Use low gear and a little more throttle to get going. If you don't mind the little extra exercise I can't see any real downside to going with the handshaker.
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That's not always true. My Ram with an auto was available with 460lbtq and 235hp. With the six speed manual you could get an HO with 505lbtq and 245hp.

You have to check by truck and by year to see what's right for you. Personally I really like my manual transmission, I also spent years saying real trucks don't have autos or spark plugs. That's changing with the example of having the Aisin trans having more power.

With its deep first gear taking off on hills is no problem at all.
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hey thanks. i looked up the torq and hp for a 2001 7.3. the auto has 250 hp. the stick has 275hp and 20 more ft poundsof torq.
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