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Old 09-21-2015, 04:30 PM   #91
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Yes I did. Without knowing about it until too late. Left Yellowstone thru northeast gate. Beautiful drive. No traffic, no ice or snow and no problems. Stopped for fuel when we came down the other side and a guy asked "you didn't just come down the beartooth in that, did you?" I said yeah why? He just took a walk around the truck and fiver shaking his head and said, "unbelievable."
I didn't realize what a big deal it was until I started telling this store and folks found it hard to believe. 😁
Pulling and stopping is never an issue with the 5.7L. It's just the pin weight in the bed of the truck that concerns me.
Wow, I'd never have thought it possible to get a 5er down the beartooth highway. We're planning on heading to (and through) Yellowstone next year with the fifth wheel, but wouldn't have considered the beartooth highway with it.
Drove along there (in a rental SUV) a couple of years ago (in July, with 8 ft of snow either side of the road still along some parts). Beautiful drive.

(then I made the mistake of believing my wife's GPS on the way back to our cabin near Ennis, and doing 2.5 hrs of dirt-track to get from Red Lodge to I-90.
If you want a laugh the route it took us was
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Red+...66ffa7!1m0!3e0
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Old 09-21-2015, 05:40 PM   #92
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Took the Tundra and 5r to the scales, here are the numbers.
Tundra without trailer 6,400#. Includes DW, myself, a 60# Boxer, a 6#Yorkie, Hitch and a 3500 watt generator behind the cab.
Tundra and 5r weighed in at 15,080. Tundra front axel 3,400#, Rear axel 4,140, Trailer axels 7540. No food on board the 5r, everything else ready to go. Yep I'm over payload, dont tell the weight police. With air bags it all rides level. A good break controller and 10 ply tires a must.
My previous 5r was 1200# heavier, Tundra did well with it also.
Sad to say that since these weights were taken we lost our Yorkie and Boxer 6 weeks apart.

Something not adding up here. You 5er plus truck scale weight 15,080 and the truck weight of 6,400 gives you trailer weight of 8,680. Your numbers for axle weights with 5er connected add up to 7540 subtract the unloaded weight of 6400 and gives a pin weight of 1,140 lbs. You should have at least 15% on the pin and that weight is 1302 and 2014 models I looked up had over 1500 lbs dry pin weight. I guess if tows great with that low pin weight the numbers don't matter.
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Old 09-21-2015, 07:39 PM   #93
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Can't always believe the mfr numbers. My father's TH has a mfr tongue weight rating of 760lbs. With his options like happijak couch and bed, slide out sofa, genset... his actual hitch weight is around 600lbs.
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Old 09-21-2015, 08:25 PM   #94
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Wow, I'd never have thought it possible to get a 5er down the beartooth highway. We're planning on heading to (and through) Yellowstone next year with the fifth wheel, but wouldn't have considered the beartooth highway with it.
Drove along there (in a rental SUV) a couple of years ago (in July, with 8 ft of snow either side of the road still along some parts). Beautiful drive.

(then I made the mistake of believing my wife's GPS on the way back to our cabin near Ennis, and doing 2.5 hrs of dirt-track to get from Red Lodge to I-90.
If you want a laugh the route it took us was
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Red+...66ffa7!1m0!3e0
)
Wow. There aren't many routes around there but there's got to be a better one than that.
I'd never pull Beartooth in snow and ice season but I'd do it again thru August September.
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Old 09-21-2015, 08:44 PM   #95
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Wow. There aren't many routes around there but there's got to be a better one than that.
I'd never pull Beartooth in snow and ice season but I'd do it again thru August September.
Yeah, just following the route that Google Maps suggests (without the waypoints that I added to show where the old TomTom GPS took us), it's 1h15m shorter, tho' 4 miles longer. I guess it really wanted to take us the shortest route, rather than the quickest (even tho' it was always set to defaults)
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Wow. There aren't many routes around there but there's got to be a better one than that.
I'd never pull Beartooth in snow and ice season but I'd do it again thru August September.
We were there the last weekend of Sturgis. Went over the pass on bikes at 35* in a rain cloud with sleet and wind. It was not pleasant. The next weekend it snowed and a bike wrecked on an icy patch. 3 days after we rode beartooth and chief Joseph a couple sideswiped a grizzly on CJ. Weather up there can change fast!
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As far as the "two persons, dog and kitty part", that's us and my 2500HD does great with our 36' Sabre. Great MPG compared to my old rig and power to spare! I realize it's not a gasser like the thread is mentioning, but you don't have to move to the full 1 ton either.

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holy crap what are you towing for that you need that much room for 2 people and dogs...
what sort of dogs?
Bull Mastiffs?

we have a 34 foot 5th wheel bunk house and haul with F150XTR ecoboost Super crew cab.
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averaged 22.6 litres/100kms between fredericton to Wood Island Ferry PEI and back loaded with flea market items (flags, ball caps, yard sale items etc.
2 adults, cloths,groceries and beer)
most of the time it ran between 5 and 6 gear on the highway at 110 kph. Couple big hills it went to 4th gear for a short sprint at the top, and we are up hills both ways in NB Canada.
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Very sorry to hear about you Boxer and Yorkie. One of the hardest things ive ever have had to deal with, 5 years ago to the day we lost our schnauzer/cocker mix just 2 weeks shy of 19 years.
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none they don't have the braking power or suspension!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would respectfully disagree

Up and down the mountains no problem (helps that the EcoBoost has a built in engine brake )
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