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Old 05-26-2016, 10:16 PM   #81
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too many people see ads on tv that say max towing ability for certain brand and think that's for all of that brand.my bil being prime example
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Old 06-20-2016, 02:34 PM   #82
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would my 2016 jeep cherokee six cyl pull my a frame camper also do i need electric brakes in stalled thank you
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Old 06-20-2016, 04:37 PM   #83
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I am looking for info on best MPG TV for hauling prods. My leased Honda pilot pulling the178 looks for gas stations!
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Old 06-20-2016, 05:42 PM   #84
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would my 2016 jeep cherokee six cyl pull my a frame camper also do i need electric brakes in stalled thank you
If the trailer has electric brakes, you need a Brake Controller installed.
Hope you have the factory tow package in your Jeep.
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tow vehicle abilites...

Hubby and I are in the process of upgrading both our TT to a 5th wheel and our tow vehicle. We tried to be smart and do LOTS of homework, but now that we are in the home stretch, it feels like we studied for the wrong test.

We need a BH, so we are looking at larger/ heavier 5th wheels.

The floorplan that we have decided on has a dry weight of 12,200, pin weight of 2800, and cargo capacity of 2550...

We intended to purchase a RAM 2500. Once we got ready to pull the plug on both vehicles, I finally asked enough questions to get a 'truck specialist' to come out and give us a min-lesson on how each truck has an individual tow rating... seems like the truck we wanted is actually rated at 15.600 ( not the 17,000 that the sales guy kept touting.

So after a bit more research, and some soul searching about whether I really want to drive my kiddos to school in a dually, I decided to downgrade my expectations on the 5th wheel, and look for something a bit lighter ( but not as perfect for us)

Now I have both the RV store and the Dodge guys doing all sorts of dances about how they have never heard of anyone having a problem pulling any dual axle 5th wheel with a 3/4 ton diesel truck...and they are just sure that I will be just fine.


I keep bringing up the 20-25% cushion that I have heard as a good rule of thumb, but in the end, I am no expert. I am making one purchase, and there are a lot of moving parts here...They are telling me that a diesel engine with all of the torque will compensate for the missing percentage points.

Does anyone have any real world experience? I do spend a lot of time in my trailer, driving my kiddos to all of the National Parks for 10 weeks out of the summer, so we do encounter a few continental divides....
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You may run into issues, trying to get a National Park campsite, with a big 5th wheel.
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Hubby and I are in the process of upgrading both our TT to a 5th wheel and our tow vehicle. We tried to be smart and do LOTS of homework, but now that we are in the home stretch, it feels like we studied for the wrong test.

We need a BH, so we are looking at larger/ heavier 5th wheels.

The floorplan that we have decided on has a dry weight of 12,200, pin weight of 2800, and cargo capacity of 2550...

We intended to purchase a RAM 2500. Once we got ready to pull the plug on both vehicles, I finally asked enough questions to get a 'truck specialist' to come out and give us a min-lesson on how each truck has an individual tow rating... seems like the truck we wanted is actually rated at 15.600 ( not the 17,000 that the sales guy kept touting.

So after a bit more research, and some soul searching about whether I really want to drive my kiddos to school in a dually, I decided to downgrade my expectations on the 5th wheel, and look for something a bit lighter ( but not as perfect for us)

Now I have both the RV store and the Dodge guys doing all sorts of dances about how they have never heard of anyone having a problem pulling any dual axle 5th wheel with a 3/4 ton diesel truck...and they are just sure that I will be just fine.


I keep bringing up the 20-25% cushion that I have heard as a good rule of thumb, but in the end, I am no expert. I am making one purchase, and there are a lot of moving parts here...They are telling me that a diesel engine with all of the torque will compensate for the missing percentage points.

Does anyone have any real world experience? I do spend a lot of time in my trailer, driving my kiddos to all of the National Parks for 10 weeks out of the summer, so we do encounter a few continental divides....
You already know more than the truck salesman. Loaded pin weight will be +/- 3000#. Add maybe 325 for you and hubby plus another 125 for 'stuff' in the cab and bed. Add the weight of the kiddos. You may well be over payload. Now you are in dually country! My 2016 F350 diesel 4x4 has a payload listed on the yellow sticker on the door frame of 3434# for cargo and passengers. My truck with your load would be over for sure. A 3/4 ton would be way over and should not be even considered. Nearly always you will run out of payload before weight pulled/towed.
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There ya go...
That's what I'm talking about.

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I would have pulled in to the first auto parts or rv store and replaced the brake controller since stopping is so important.
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You already know more than the truck salesman. Loaded pin weight will be +/- 3000#. Add maybe 325 for you and hubby plus another 125 for 'stuff' in the cab and bed. Add the weight of the kiddos. You may well be over payload. Now you are in dually country! My 2016 F350 diesel 4x4 has a payload listed on the yellow sticker on the door frame of 3434# for cargo and passengers. My truck with your load would be over for sure. A 3/4 ton would be way over and should not be even considered. Nearly always you will run out of payload before weight pulled/towed.
Now they are talking to me about adding airbags to the suspension to increase the payload #.... Is this a valid option/ fix?
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Airbags don't increase payload. They just raise the bed of the truck.

In fact, they actually will lower the payload by however much they weigh!
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