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Old 03-03-2013, 09:35 PM   #11
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Good luck getting a correct interpretation from your DMV. I have been trying to figure out what to register for here in NC. The DMV had no idea and the DOT isn't answering my emails. I'm registered at 10,000 lb right now which covers me for truck weight plus tongue weight and then a little cushion. My TV and TT combined weigh in at 15,500 lbs. my truck gcwr is way above that.
Here is my understanding about the NC DMV. If it has a bathroom in it then that weight does not have to be registered. The registration weight must cover my truck and boat but not truck and camper. I called the DMV in Raleigh and my local DMV confirmed when I went to get tags. Not saying it makes sense but this is what was told to me. This all took place in 2011.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:53 PM   #12
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Well I drive truck up here in Canada B.C. and I know they are starting to crack down. they have scales all over our highways and portable ones as well...

If your hauling your 5th wheel the first thing you need as a driver is a "heavy hauling endorsement" - this is a test with your truck and trailer (over5000kg) to show you know how to handle your unit or a class 3 drivers license which is air and small trucks.

My cousin from Alberta was driving from there out here and was turned back just after the border and was told to take his 2500 Chevy and his 36ft trailer home, he was sagging pretty good.

Most DMV DOT guys are pretty good in doing their job, however, I know if your dragging a big girl behind your 2500 it better look like it can handle it. Any 1500 truck with a big trailer almost always gets looked at twice and most often pulled over and weighed out.

We don't have plates up here stating weight, it is on our insurance papers. And your GCVWR is what they are looking at. And get the right guy on the wrong day and it could be anyone's worst night mare..!
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:06 AM   #13
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I've been hauling a fifth wheel trailer for over 9 years all over the state of MO and I've yet to see a fifth wheel pulled over for weight. I've also saw plenty of fifth wheels with bass boats in tow that are well over the legal limit in length and have yet to see one of them pulled over either.
Have you seen the new Tahoe's on I-70 around Warrenton? The MOHP got a federal grant to equip them with portable scales. That is there only function, to pull people over and weigh them. Over on my side of the state Troop A has 2 trucks, so does Troop F. I have seen them quite often on 13 coming out of Clinton.
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:17 AM   #14
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Have you seen the new Tahoe's on I-70 around Warrenton? The MOHP got a federal grant to equip them with portable scales. That is there only function, to pull people over and weigh them. Over on my side of the state Troop A has 2 trucks, so does Troop F. I have seen them quite often on 13 coming out of Clinton.
So they are looking for big rigs and people with MO plates towing?
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:22 AM   #15
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So they are looking for big rigs and people with MO plates towing?
Technically they are looking for any possible weight violation. That would include GCVWR in excess of your registered weight, or any DOT violation for commercial carriers.

I think for private individuals they probably focus mostly on toy haulers because of the size, but that is just an assumption.
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:46 AM   #16
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Every state is very different for anything under 26000 lbs then it can come under DOT (Usually commercial)

After talking with a state trooper his comment was DMV will sell you anything but does not excuse the owner not having the correct tags, etc...... Having said that they try to overlook RVs because of the high tourst $$ coming into the state. But of course if something is totally wrong like double towing they will be stopped & ticketed and be made legal before continuing . He also said the comment about not being able to catch all the fish in the lake while fishing......

Virginia has two main types of regular tags Car & Truck "Car under 7500 lbs & truck over 7501. Then there are sub sections that will be listed on the registration (such as up to 10000 lbs). I see alot of duellys with car tags (up to 7500) but put anything in it or tow then they are asking for problems....... Here the truck is tagged for the truck & the trailer for the trailer weight.......

I have not seen the state DOT scale guys with an RV pulled over but commercial vehicles is another story.......

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Over the years I have seen many people put extremely heavy loads in the beds of their 1/2 ton trucks - gravel, cement blocks, bags of concrete and the like. So much so that the rear bumpers are almost dragging on the ground and the rear tires look like they are going to pop. It's extremely dangerous. Yet, I have never seen or heard of anyone ever getting stopped or fined for this. I just don't know how people can be so stupid. It seems like such an obvious no-no.

In comparison, I can see how people can overload their tow vehicles with their TT or 5er and either not know or understand how unsafe it is. I have to wonder how many people out their are towing something with a bumper-mounted ball that grossly exceeds the bumper capacity. That scenario is so easy to happen. Maybe they shouldn't sell trucks with a hole in the bumper for a hitch ball??

In the municipality that we live in, you almost never see cops doing any kind of traffic/road safety enforcement. They seem to have a real laisse-fair attitude here.

It can be so easy to ignore motor vehicle regulations and they sometimes don't get enforced very well. However, if you ever do get in an accident and you violated any rules or regulations, the law will come down on you like a ton of bricks and you will pay the price. It's better just to check out what's required first.
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I agree but going a few miles overloaded in a pickup is very different than pulling a trailer overloaded on the interstate........ Many over load a pickup either because thats what they can "afford", it a "one time thing" or what ever.......... Going from Lowes to home is very different......................But I agree you see some wild things going down the road...

When I was younger I had a Bronco Half Cab 4x4 with a dump bed (DW hated it) that I loaded with 1/2 weight but the frame rode on the rear axel. It was stable ... good for the truck??? Unsafe????? Of course a 70 Bronco was alot tougher than a 2013 F-whatever . Ever seen a mobile home (not an RV) being towed down the road by an F250.

Now with my 12.5K camper I would not think of pulling it with less than a heavy truck....
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It can be so easy to ignore motor vehicle regulations and they sometimes don't get enforced very well. However, if you ever do get in an accident and you violated any rules or regulations, the law will come down on you like a ton of bricks and you will pay the price. It's better just to check out what's required first.


I think this is the point exactly..! Many of us choose or think our units are just fine or under the limits of the truck or DOT or what ever your evil. Some people turn the other cheek and ignore it, others er on the side of safety.

What we choose to pull or put in our trucks is our choice. Get into an accident and watch how quickly the tables will turn in that it was overloaded or over the GCVW or what ever.

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I think this is the point exactly..! Many of us choose or think our units are just fine or under the limits of the truck or DOT or what ever your evil. Some people turn the other cheek and ignore it, others er on the side of safety.

What we choose to pull or put in our trucks is our choice. Get into an accident and watch how quickly the tables will turn in that it was overloaded or over the GCVW or what ever.

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Additional point...It isn't just your equipment/life potentialy at risk, you could hurt or kill someone else.
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