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Old 08-09-2015, 12:42 PM   #11
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I have owned gas and diesel. Always pulled with 5rs with a diesel. Most alarming assumption is that the 11,500 empty will be under 13,000 running. I've owned several TTs, MHs, and 5rs, and weighed most of them, empty and towings. Only had one TT come in under 2000 over empty. Usually crowding 3000. Suggest you go for a tow vehicle that will handle more weight. As for gas or diesel, given fuel costs, and the tremendous improvement in the gasoline engine/transmission combos, I wouldn't put a dog in that fight on either side.
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Old 08-09-2015, 01:42 PM   #12
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I'd go 3500. Think you'll love it! My old ford v10 pulled 13k+ with ease and I'm sure the new 6.4 and better transmission will be leaps better.
ive owned the v-10 also and if I knowed this 6.4 would pull like it did I would buy it in a heartbeat, but you compareing a big block to a small block, so I don't think its gonna have that kinda power but could be wrong,

I own a dually now and like the stability, and to me they have a lot more stopping power, but the 2500 would suite my wife better if she has to drive it, cause shes scared of my truck,

I don't think mine weighs over 13 but if it does make it to 14k that's still 1600 under tow rating. mostly foothills around me, and we go to beach a couple times a year 300mile round trips, really no mtns. but if I decided to go to the mtns. id want the truck to make it
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Old 08-09-2015, 02:34 PM   #13
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Just for fun, and to make sure I told the truth, went out to the truck to check weigh tickets. The last new 5th wheel was a 2008 Montana 2955RL. Concerned about weights, on the day I picked it up, first went to the Flying J and weighted truck, full tanks, wife and I, SuperGlide hitch and my "on board" tools.
2007 GMC HD2500 4x4 Classic Duramax:
4480 F, 3480 R, =7960 Truck, Passengers, Fuel, Ready to Hook'm up
Then picked up the coach, full water tanks, same truck, etc, about 4 hours later:
4500 F, 5480 R, 9580 Coach Axles = 19440 Truck & Coach with Onan 5.5 Generator
Then, one month later, on RV outing, weighed same Fuel & Water conditions with full groceries, linens, cokes, grills, etc, etc, at Cat scales in OK:
4680 F, 6160 R, 10540 Coach Axles = 21380 Truck & Coach gone camping. (22000 GCWR)
Coach "empty" weight was 9800 before dealer installed the Onan, about 250#.
So I figure 21380 - 7960 (=13420, 13725 gvwr) -9800 = 3620# I added to the "empty" coach, including the Onan!
As I said before, be sure to get enough truck. It's real easy to fool yourself about how much weight you will carry.
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Old 08-09-2015, 02:42 PM   #14
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I have no horse in the game. I think the 3500 would be the best choice for your 5th.

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Old 08-09-2015, 04:56 PM   #15
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Old 08-09-2015, 10:19 PM   #16
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Just for fun, and to make sure I told the truth, went out to the truck to check weigh tickets. The last new 5th wheel was a 2008 Montana 2955RL. Concerned about weights, on the day I picked it up, first went to the Flying J and weighted truck, full tanks, wife and I, SuperGlide hitch and my "on board" tools.
2007 GMC HD2500 4x4 Classic Duramax:
4480 F, 3480 R, =7960 Truck, Passengers, Fuel, Ready to Hook'm up
Then picked up the coach, full water tanks, same truck, etc, about 4 hours later:
4500 F, 5480 R, 9580 Coach Axles = 19440 Truck & Coach with Onan 5.5 Generator
Then, one month later, on RV outing, weighed same Fuel & Water conditions with full groceries, linens, cokes, grills, etc, etc, at Cat scales in OK:
4680 F, 6160 R, 10540 Coach Axles = 21380 Truck & Coach gone camping. (22000 GCWR)
Coach "empty" weight was 9800 before dealer installed the Onan, about 250#.
So I figure 21380 - 7960 (=13420, 13725 gvwr) -9800 = 3620# I added to the "empty" coach, including the Onan!
As I said before, be sure to get enough truck. It's real easy to fool yourself about how much weight you will carry.
I got her packed up to go to Helen Ga. wensday, so I will hook to her tomorrow and go weigh her and let you know, but I never pull with my water tanks pull, it will go from campsite to dump station, and I never use fresh water tank, its to big to take anywhere that has no water and power
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Old 08-10-2015, 04:28 AM   #17
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For what it's worth, I'm pull a 35 ft Sabre that is close to 12,500 with the 5.7 hemi/4:10. So far no problems. We just got back from Colorado and we did ok although we didn't go up any 14-ners. But I wasn't trying to do the hills at 65 mph either. The engine did whine at times but I was told that the CPU prevents any redline issues. I've also gotten pretty good at using the elec. range select which lets me control shift points, especially with engine braking on the way down.

And after almost 4 years, no body/rust problems with the ram.

Good luck with your decision
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Old 08-10-2015, 10:56 AM   #18
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Go with the 2500 as long as you're not going to be upgrading to a bigger trailer in the future. It'll ride a whole lot better when you're not towing ...For most people, that's 99% of the time. Btw, I've had dodges the last 17 years and no issues with paint integrity.
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:23 AM   #19
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I have a 2015 6.4 4x4 crew cab in the 2500. I currently tow a 21 Ft Mini lite but will be upgrading at some point. I got the Gasser because my truck sits alot and that's bad for a diesel.

Have I mentioned that I love this truck? Cause i do. If you are worried about Gas mileage though, you may want to reconsider your thoughts on Diesel

from the Ram site, here are the Max payload and max towing. Interesting that the max tow is higher on the 2500.

the link below allows you play with your configurations to make sure you are where you want to be

Ram Trucks - Towing Capacity Chart

apperently the pics aren't coming through...
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:38 AM   #20
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I posted my weights so there's a "real life" value to work from. We like to boondock where water, electricity and dump can't be certain. Hence generator and water full tanks. I have on one occasion spent a week without dumping, 100 gal grey and 50 gal black, probably not completely full, then filled my water on exit, so as not to count on being able to find water at the next step, only to find the nearby public dump station closed. So had to carry the whole bundle about a hundred miles.
My point to all this is that you don't want to be right up to your limits going in. Needs WILL CHANGE, some by choice, some by surprise. And be sure you weigh the combo in camping mode. Whether over or under, you will at least KNOW what you are dealing with.
And last point. I've had a couple of 1 ton duals (diesel) as well as the current 3/4 ton. I wouldn't trade my 3/4 for a dual, but that is a personal preference. My 3/4 ton has NO PROBLEM with my rig, and I've pulled it over 60000 miles, including a couple of trips to Canada, one to Alaska, and several in the Rockies. But do note, a 3/4 ton diesel shares driveline with a 1 ton. Don't know if that is true for gasers. For example, son has exact same model truck as mine, with 6.0 gas. His driveline components are different from mine.
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