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08-20-2014, 06:20 PM
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Camper Less Camping
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Originally Posted by OldCoot
Air bags let YOU control the amount of assistance you want, which IMO is far superior to the Timbrens which only give you what they deem necessary.
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x2000!
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08-20-2014, 06:30 PM
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Location: Concord, NC
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Originally Posted by Rugged Brown
It is true that you can control the amount of assistance you want, however , my experience is that you either have them inflated full when trailer is hooked up or completed deflated with no trailer. Some will say 60 - 80 psi with trailer and 0-5 psi with no trailer depending on your weight and the ride you want to achieve. The point I'm getting at is that they are either engaged or not, which is the same as Timbrens, which IMO makes them operate the same...
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As you say, you speak from your experience which is not how I use mine. I adjust the pressure according to the load. No load = 5#-15#, Load = 45#-65# and on a very few occasions 100#. Contrary to your statement, the airbags are constantly engaged, just to varying degrees unlike the Timbrens. Tire pressures are adjusted also. BTW, I have an onboard compressor which is 14 yrs old as are the airbags and no problems.
So, bottom line, if OP wants to control the ride, use airbags.
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08-20-2014, 06:54 PM
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Location: Texas
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I am running with the Firestone air bags, no compressor, 40# towing and 5 - 10# daily driving. Also have bilstein 5100 shocks. Only added air to the bags one time while on the road, my little 12v compressor does just fine tho an onboard would be nice
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08-20-2014, 07:10 PM
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Camper Less Camping
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Quote:
Originally Posted by presley01
I am running with the Firestone air bags, no compressor, 40# towing and 5 - 10# daily driving. Also have bilstein 5100 shocks. Only added air to the bags one time while on the road, my little 12v compressor does just fine tho an onboard would be nice
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I do the same with my stinking diesel
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08-20-2014, 07:50 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Central Indiana
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Don't have experience with add-on air bags, but did install Timbrens last week. So far they have met my expectations of leaving unloaded ride the same and significantly (by over 2") reducing rear end sag on my 2013 Ram 1500 and doing so at a very reasonable price.
I do have experience with factory airbags on my former 04 gmc envoy Denali XL. It had auto leveling system, which became problematic at about 6 years old and remained so until I traded it in for the Ram. Probably apples to oranges, but it was a factor in my decision to go with the lower tech Timbrens.
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08-20-2014, 08:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by purduepete97
Don't have experience with add-on air bags, but did install Timbrens last week. So far they have met my expectations of leaving unloaded ride the same and significantly (by over 2") reducing rear end sag on my 2013 Ram 1500 and doing so at a very reasonable price.
I do have experience with factory airbags on my former 04 gmc envoy Denali XL. It had auto leveling system, which became problematic at about 6 years old and remained so until I traded it in for the Ram. Probably apples to oranges, but it was a factor in my decision to go with the lower tech Timbrens.
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We've had 3 Caddys with the auto leveling system and it was air shocks, not air bags. I do know from experience, that there is a world of difference from the air shocks and air bags. Also had 2 El Caminos with air shocks. The present air bags were on my 2000 Silverado. Just changed brackets and installed on the 05. I like both systems.
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08-21-2014, 09:15 AM
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Senior Member
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If the Timbrens end up not working out long term, good to know I can have confidence in the reliability of add on bags vs the factory bags that were such a headache. Thanks for the clarification.
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08-22-2014, 01:13 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Glen St. Mary FL
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Just got my bags on today. Hope to see the difference in the ride with them on the next outing. Air lift 5000's.
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08-22-2014, 01:30 PM
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Camper Less Camping
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick32040
Just got my bags on today. Hope to see the difference in the ride with them on the next outing. Air lift 5000's.
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09-01-2014, 04:00 AM
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Just a member
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Location: Great White North
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Timbrens and... air bags. Installed the Timbrens and was pleased with the performance but they still had trouble with them nasty prairie, frost heaved highways. Installed a set of Airlift 1000 bags shortly thereafter (left the Timbrens in) and the improvement was just short of exceptional. To be fair I should pull the Timbrens and reinstall the factory bump stops and do some comparison testing but it does appear that (Ram 1500 application) the two systems complement each other.
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09-05-2014, 10:17 AM
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Love my Firestone airbags!!! Took all the bounce out of our F150 when towing. I use a bicycle pump with built in air gauge. 12 pumps each and done. 10k miles this year and very happy. Found 35psi to work well. Too much air EQ hitch isnt doing its job.
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09-23-2014, 03:36 PM
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Use to pull with a Tundra, installed airbags and it was great, problem is when your not towing it feels like you need a chiropractor after each speed bump
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09-23-2014, 04:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gustavomontoya
Use to pull with a Tundra, installed airbags and it was great, problem is when your not towing it feels like you need a chiropractor after each speed bump
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Let them down to 5# when not towing and you won't know they are on the truck.
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09-23-2014, 04:27 PM
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We carry a $40 bicycle air pump w psi gauge. Fills bags in 10-15 pumps.
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09-23-2014, 04:57 PM
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Well OldCoot I resolved that problem by buying a 2500HD, thanks buddy
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09-23-2014, 05:09 PM
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Dazed & Confused
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: NW PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gustavomontoya
Use to pull with a Tundra, installed airbags and it was great, problem is when your not towing it feels like you need a chiropractor after each speed bump
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I have LoadLifter 5000 Ultimate on my Tundra. Run 7 psi when not towing and the ride is as stock.
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09-23-2014, 06:10 PM
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Junior Member
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Location: Queensland Australia
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hey i fitted Firestone air bags to my ford F250 dual cab which helped however it did not arrest the front to rear 5th wheel movement, i changed the pin box to a Trailair which has its own airbag and a shock absorber i set the pressure at 60psi that worked a treat with my Flagstaff
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09-23-2014, 06:14 PM
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Wow. I tried everything and it was stiff
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09-23-2014, 06:42 PM
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Junior Member
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Location: Queensland Australia
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i also should have added i set vehicle airbags at 20psi this keeps the unit level on the turntable
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09-23-2014, 07:21 PM
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Senior Member
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Hey guys, those of you who have installed AirLift 5000's, recheck your documentation on the minimum PSI to run in the bags. I could be wrong but, I thought mine said NOT to run below 10 psi.
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