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Old 04-20-2012, 09:38 AM   #1
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Air bags or R.A.S

Has anyone used the R.A.S (Roadmaster active suspension) http://www.activesuspension.com/
Air bags or the ras I'm trying to decide on one or the other. I do like the added suspension of the ras if they work as advertised.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:11 AM   #2
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I can't speak for the R.A.S. but i have had airbags on my last few trucks and love them. You can take the "squat" right out. I typically run 30psi when I pull the travel trailer. They are reasonably priced and easy to install
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:24 AM   #3
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I watched all the videos and animations on the RAS but I'm not sold. What I really don't like is the rear mount and how it JUST clips on. It seems to me that there is a chance that it could pop off. I'm not advocating the airbags because I have them but I like the fact that I can adjust the height depending on the load. IMHO there is no better ride than on air.
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Old 04-20-2012, 02:30 PM   #4
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I had the firestone ride right air bags on my last truck and really liked them. Easy installation and they performed good. Now that we are looking at a new fiver I have ordered another set for this truck because of the increased weight. On our last trip, driving at night, some of the oncoming traffic thought I had my brights on, so with the heavier pin weight I want them just to level the truck out.
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Old 04-20-2012, 02:37 PM   #5
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I have bags on my suburban and they do what I ask of them which is to level it .
I think onboard compressors or controllers are a waste of money for as much as I need to adjust them I cant see justifying the price .
you cant increase towing capacity but you can enhance it !
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:43 PM   #6
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I use PacBrake Air Bags. You don't need an onboard compressor, you can just air up individual bags and deflate to the pressure you like. You can just carry a small 12 volt air compressor.
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:54 AM   #7
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Also can't speak for the RAS, but I really like the Firestone bags. I have run them at 30-40 psi towing, and let the pressure off to 10psi otherwise. At that low pressure, the ride is just a little firmer than the stock suspension.
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:22 AM   #8
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I went with RAS. For me it was cheaper, easier to install, and there is no more work after it is installed. Just hitch up and go. No trying to tweak air pressure, no worries about deterioration over the years. RAS helped my rear end sag, improved body roll loaded and unloaded, and eliminated axle wrap. Not sure about other vehicles, but RAS does wonders for the soft suspension of the Excursion.
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:08 PM   #9
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Question? I put air lift 1000 on my truck and tee d them together was just wondering what and if there is an advantage to plumbing them in separately
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:18 PM   #10
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We always run bags on our trucks towing all over the place. Air Lift has a $100 rebate going on right now. $50 for the bags and $50 for the compressor kit.
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:06 PM   #11
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Have used the same air bags hooked together for 15 yrs on 3 different trucks with an onboard compressor mounted outside under the drivers seat. Let the air down to 5-10lbs unloaded and 40-50lbs with load (couple of times to 80lbs). Just press the button to let the air out or press the switch to increase. Never had a problem with the bags or the compressor.
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:12 PM   #12
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Yeah...what Dunn said!
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:31 PM   #13
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Firestone Ride Rite airbags here no complaints the truck is always level when I pull away with the trailer. They have a 5K pound rating @ 100 P.S.I.
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Old 04-22-2012, 12:01 AM   #14
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I would not tie them together .
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Old 04-22-2012, 08:13 AM   #15
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Don't understand the reason for not hooking them together. I have never had a load that wasn't evenly distributed in the bed. Would be a lot trickier to have them independent with an onboard compressor and to me just not worth the effort for the very rare occasion of an uneven load.
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Old 04-22-2012, 08:58 AM   #16
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One of the videos I watched for the Airlift system said to not tee them together. The premisis was if the body starts to roll the air from one bag would enter the other bag thus making the body roll more. I've never had that problem and frankly i would never load my truck up with so much to make it that top heavy anyway.
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:28 AM   #17
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I can see separate lines for a truck with a slide in camper or one with an overcab rack for long objects, but see no benefit for trucks with the loads contained within the bed rails and evenly distributed from side to side. The later situation being the case with a large majority of trucks with airbags towing a 5ver or tongue trailer. Also the complicated plumbing with an onboard compressor having to have separate lines to a switching valve etc.
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:24 AM   #18
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I have the RAS on my Excursion for a year now and so far like them. I have not had any issues with them at all. They were easy to install and help alot with the tongue weight of my Rockwood 3008w with the front kitchen. I plan on eventually doing the V/B code spring swap and will continue to use the RAS.
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Old 04-23-2012, 05:25 PM   #19
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Question? I put air lift 1000 on my truck and tee d them together was just wondering what and if there is an advantage to plumbing them in separately
Plumb them separately. That way you can level your vehicle. If they are together you can get vehicle roll.
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Old 04-23-2012, 08:42 PM   #20
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I had them and liked them.




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