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Old 02-19-2015, 05:11 PM   #11
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JC, I towed a Rockwood 2703 SS with the same truck. The engine screams a bit, typical V8 climbing hills.
I have a 2006 with the 5.4L and 3.73s, and the engine seldom revs over 3500 rpms in the hills around here. I have seen a little over 4000 rpms with some "surprise" downshifts into 2nd starting up some slopes, but I make sure now that I slow down before that happens. In 2nd gear at 55 mpg going up 7-8% grades, I say the engine is purring, not screaming.


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Old 02-19-2015, 05:20 PM   #12
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Now,we are planning this summer to go to Bradford county. It's up toward New York. I know there is mountains on the way. This could be the test or what I'm considering proof for my dw(this means dear not dumb right?)for a 3/4 ton. The only bad thing is I really love my truck, Im kinda funny (an_l)with my vehicles. I'm driving myself nuts looking at trucks. I'm a ford guy sorry , but I don't like the 6.0 diesel heard too many nightmares. Also I'm not rich either. Sometimes I think I have too much time thinking about this.

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Old 02-19-2015, 06:14 PM   #13
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Also I'm not rich either
I think you could get-by with the F150 for the first year but you'll have to pack carefully which can be tedious... This likely means having tubs with some of your gear in the rear bunk room vs. storing it all conveniently in the pass-through storage or under the front queen bed...

To keep weight off of the tongue, I added 5/8 ply under the dinette seats so when inverted they have quick-release fork holders for 4 bikes. That's 200 lbs. of bikes added to our tow rating but not our tongue weight/payload... I also placed tubs of firewood inside our rear bath door vs. the PU bed, etc. Even though we have a Ram 2500, I wanted to see if I could down-grade to a F150 EB to gain better mileage in my daily commute...

In the end I kept the Ram 2500 because its payload of 3000 means I can add a fiberglass cap, kayaks, etc., and all of the firewood we need for a 10+ day trip.... In our case, the '11 Ram 2500 @ only $14K was less than any used F150 Ecoboost I could find... We're not rich either... Not like some folks on this forum who are continually upgrading... Our combined TV & TT payments are less than $400 which means more $$$ for camping.
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Old 02-19-2015, 08:09 PM   #14
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Years ago I had the same set-up you have (same TV and same size TT). I overloaded the TV with bikes, firewood, 3 big dogs and a lot of extra stuff. I added the Super Springs to level the TV and to improve handling. Where I live, no mountains, only flat and rolling plains.

I've been RVing since the 90s; I'm not rich; my current set is stretching the max limits and I know I'm over; but I only travel 100 miles from home 5 times a year (and 1 trip to the Black Hills once every 4th year). I bought the most I could afford and stay within safe limits and have left over $ for fun! I do not pack 1/2 of what I did in years back, I only take what I need.

I'm still learning. I didn't understand the importance of payload and the difference of floating and semi-floating axle. This site is full of reviews by many people "schooled by experience" . When I buy my next 5th wheel and F250/F350, I will have even more knowledge.

You should be OK on flat land; mountains you're go 'in slow and hot.

(Also, I was told that DW means "dishwasher")

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Old 02-19-2015, 09:36 PM   #15
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I'm a Ford guy myself.

I just took a look at your rig and the GVWR is 8200 pounds. With a estimated dry weight of 7200, by the time you add on just your batteries, propane tanks, water and 2 average size adults.. that's already almost putting you at max. Your hitch and tongue weights might be fine, but it's a pretty safe bet you're going to be WAY over by the time you add in food and personal equipment. The other concern is that the tongue weight with 2 average size adults just about ate up your cargo capacity.

You might get away with it... many do... but in my book it's a pretty unsafe practice for you as well as other drivers. A smidge over max isn't uncommon, but loaded.. you might pushing 800+ over.
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:47 PM   #16
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JcNoble: Congrats on Your new TT.

I have the same TV as you have with 43,000 miles on it. I was pulling a 20' TT which had a DRY weight of 3265 lbs. Sold it because the Wife and I wanted one a little bit larger with a slide out.

I did a HUGE amount of RESEARCH on what Brand of TT we should purchase. AM very Happy with my Decision and feel SAFE going down the ROAD.

We ended up with a 24' TT with a Slide out Couch, which came in at 4018 lbs. and Hitch Wt, of 416lbs. I loaded up the trailer with Cargo we wanted to take with US Camping. No water in the Fresh water or other tanks, 2- full 20 lb. propane tanks , and battery up front. Filled truck with gas, Wife and I, and another 300 lbs of gear under the TV box. Added 4 Pt. sway Equalizer hitch. Also put E Rated Michelon tires on the Truck- this really kept the truck with less Squishy feeling, with the old P Rated tires.

Then took the TT and TV to a scale and weight came in at 2000 lbs. under what my Truck is rated at.

I have seen so many RVers put the Cart in front of the Horse, in Many different RV Forums I've looked at. They listen to a Salesman, who apparently don't know what they are talking about OR & have never towed anything in their Life. RESEARCH is very Important when pursueing the purchase of TT and TV combination.

I hope and wish you & yours Safe travels with Camping. Apologize for the LONG Wind.
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Old 02-19-2015, 11:44 PM   #17
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2 comments concerning towing overweight

1-I have heard that if you have an accident, and the insurance company can show you were overweight, they can deny the claim completely, not sure if true, but makes sense.

2-Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

I would crunch the numbers, but more important, get an actual weight when fully loaded at a CAT scale, that way you have proof you are within limits, and you can have a little piece of mind.

I agree with the comments that sales people are out to make the sale, and that many half tons are just not upon the mob.

Best wishes and enjoy your new camper.
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Old 02-20-2015, 12:20 PM   #18
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Ok I'm new here so please don't be too
Tough on me. By the numbers I think I'm good. My truck info is gcwr 14,500, tongue max 990, hitch max 9900, max trailer weight is 8800. My new trailer is a 2015 fr 8312ss. It weighs 7200lbs. tongue weight is 730? My truck is a 2007 f150. It's got 5.4 motor, 373 gears, 145" wheel base. I have a Reese 1200lb weight distribution hitch and a tenkosha controller. I only had it for a week than had to take back to the dealer😢. When we were playing with it in our driveway we noticed stereo problems. So as we anticipate the return I'm trying to get schooled on camping life. So let's hear some opinoins. Thanks
You might want to do the math yourself.

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Old 02-20-2015, 02:02 PM   #19
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You didn't say whether you had a Sway Control. If not, I would recommend adding that to your weight distribution hitch. We have been pulling TT since 1970, latest hitch set up, a Reese Sway Control Weight Distribution Hitch, but I added a Sway Control and feel much more comfortable, especially in high winds and when big trucks go by.

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Old 02-20-2015, 03:22 PM   #20
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Don't want to discourage you, but the safety of you and your family is top priority. We began with a 26 ft. four Winds and a 2002 RAM 1500 with a 5.9L V-8. TV pulled the TT ok, but I never felt completely satisfied. At your first opportunity I would suggest that you step up to at least an F-250 or a Chevy or RAM HD. It is better to be safe than sorry. I agree with the Old Guys to take your time and see how it goes. If you decide to step up to a heavier truck at some point look at trucks that are three or four years old. New trucks are just priced at the extreme. I don't think I will ever buy another new vehicle.

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