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Old 05-27-2014, 10:40 PM   #11
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Oh and if you look at gm trucks you should be close to 2500lb payload in a 2500hd. Fords are really heavy for such low Gvrw's. Since the auto group I now work for has a ford store also, I work on alot of them, and am always looking at payload stickers.
(I've seen a new fx4 f150 with something around 1150lb payload.... thats only 200+lb more than my dw's impala. But most of the f150s we get are around 1400-1500lb payload. - and all were on crew cabs.)

Ps. I use 4wd alot to get onto pads

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Old 05-27-2014, 11:34 PM   #12
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Just to give you some information. I have a 2013 Chevrolet 2500hd crew cab std. bed 4x4 with duramax/Allison. GVWR 10,000 lbs. Owners manual lists 15,500 as max for fifth wheel. Weighed with full tanks driver, passenger, dog. With wdh in bed. 7920 lbs. So that leaves 2080 lbs of pay load. I'm only guessing that a fifth wheel hitch would add a couple hundred pounds. So I figure about 1600 -1800 pounds of pin weight is all I have available.

If your actual weights are as listed I would not hesitate to tow with my truck. A friend just purchased a 2015 GMC 2500 D/A and his GVWR was the same 10,000 lbs.

If you ever decided to get a bigger fifth wheel a 1 ton might be required.

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Old 05-27-2014, 11:50 PM   #13
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Last June I was just about to sign for a Ford, 3/4 ton Diesel and figured out at the last minute that I only had 2600+ pounds of payload. By the way the diesel eats up almost 500 pounds of payload. I switched over to a 1 ton. Now I have 3700+ pounds of payload and a pin weight dry of about 2000 pounds so I feel fairly comfortable with that. I use the truck almost exclusively for towing as driving the diesel around the small town I live in does not go well with all the emission stuff. There have been a couple of times the truck told me it needed to go for a drive to burn out the exhaust and driving we went.........

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Old 05-28-2014, 05:30 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by campingwilliamsons View Post
Currently we own and pull our fifth wheel with a 2013 2wd F150 SuperCrew Heavy Duty with the 3.5L ecoboost. Most of the time I have never questioned this trailer and truck combo. It tows great down the highway, the weight is handled well, and stopping (the most important) has never been a huge concern. However, it is 2wd, and this weekend we were out were 4wd was the only way to get in or out. Thankfully we were at my in-laws property and we did not have to bring the trailer (BIL's turn to haul).

There have been numerous occasions where I have thought it would be ideal to have 4wd and/or 4wd low range. Sometime this is towing, sometimes when I am empty. Either way I went looking for a new truck today. Due to insurance and registration reasons I thought I would be best served with staying in the 3/4 ton truck arena. Going that size is Diesel engine territory in my eyes. So the truck I am looking for is:

3/4 ton, crewcab, short bed, 4wd, Diesel auto, obviously set to tow (brake controller, etc). I am in my truck alot, so having a few options is important; specifically Heated/Cooled Leather Seats and Nav. My F150 has a payload/cargo rating of 2428lbs (according to the sticker on the door jamb, and that is pushing our limits when hitched up (we have about 200lbs to spare and have two growing kids). Here is what I can't figure out: all the 3/4 ton trucks, optioned how I want them have payloads that are 3-400 lbs less than my F150! That seems crazy to me.

Am I missing something? Are 3/4 ton diesel trucks that handicapped on payload? Or am I missing something? All I am asking for is 2500 lbs of payload.

For the record I tried to look at a few SRW 1 ton trucks today, but I REALLY do not want a long bed, and I have not found a short bed 1 ton on a lot yet.
Personally, I would drag the wheels off a 5er of your weights with a 2500 and never think twice about it.
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Old 05-28-2014, 07:04 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by transamz9 View Post
Personally, I would drag the wheels off a 5er of your weights with a 2500 and never think twice about it.
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Old 05-28-2014, 07:17 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by AquaMan View Post

My Sabre is 36' 10,200# bare bones and 14,000 # loaded with a 1,900# pin weight closer to 2,500# loaded.

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Old 05-28-2014, 07:17 AM   #17
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Old 05-28-2014, 07:25 AM   #18
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x5 I tow a 38ft sabre 33ckts that is a little over 13000lbs loaded. I tow with a 06 ram 2500. I have about 5000 miles towing it so far with no problems. Loaded I have 2700 pounds of pin weight. A lot of the guys on here will have you buying a Mack to tow with.
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Old 05-28-2014, 07:27 AM   #19
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Yep, the 3/4 ton 4x4s diesels will mostly be around 2000-2500lb payload. You have a rare 1/2 ton. You can get short bed 350 or 3500 trucks but your dealer will probably have to trade or order one. When I was looking last year, about all I could find was white or black in our dealer trade area.
On GM trucks the 2500 vs 3500 srw will give you 1500 more gvwr - so 1500 more payload.

(I think I might have said that trailer would be quite a workout for a gaser, & a1/2 ton. But I guess its worked good for u for a couple months now! )
Good luck in your quest!!!!

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RARE INDEED! Truth be told, the F150 is doing the job quite well and has not let me down yet. But, I am a guy that prepares for the worst and hopes for the best. Having 4wd is something I may never NEED, but likely will be happy I have. However, after seeing my BIL getting his trailer out after all the rain we had on Sunday, I am certain my 2wd would have been stuck.

So, the quest continues for a 4wd CrewCab shortbed that can carry at least 2500lbs. I did find a dealer that has what I am looking for in in an F350 in Katy (45 minutes away). We will see if it is still available this morning.
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Old 05-28-2014, 07:32 AM   #20
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Just a wild thought...since the F150 is doing it's job for you...maybe a heavy duty winch installed on the front bumper could be your emergency tool when/if ever needed!?

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