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Old 03-21-2012, 10:11 PM   #131
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truck empty-- front 40 1/4", rear 40 1/4"
camper hooked no WD-- front 40 3/8", rear 39 1/4"
camper hooked with WD front 40 1/8", rear 40"
So your front end only went up 1/8"? And your back went down only 1"?

It makes me wonder about how your trailer is loaded and whether you have sufficient tongue weight.

And the front of your truck with WD hooked up should never be lower than an empty truck. Your measurements indicate 1/8" lower than empty for the front end.

If your tongue weight is OK (10 to 15% of total trailer weight), then I think you need to back off the WD just a tad.

I think you should check your tongue weight. If less than 12%, can you shift weight around in the trailer? And then do your measurements again?
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Old 03-21-2012, 10:20 PM   #132
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OK, I just looked at the specs for your trailer and things make a little more sense. Your DRY tongue weight is only 402 out of a total 4550 so your tongue weight is less than 9%!! There's probably not much you can do about that. And that is probably why your truck measurements didn't move much. Not a lot of weight on that hitch. So, I would back off the WD a bit because your front end is too low IMO. It may give you "squirrely" handling and puts undo pressure on the front suspension of your truck. I would dial it back until your "hooked WD on" measurement is the same as empty.

That tongue weight really surprises me.

And here is another thought. The Anderson hitch uses tongue weight to control the anti-sway. The more tongue weight, the stronger the anti-sway as the ball is pushed into the sleeve. Your light tongue weight is going to give you less sway control I believe.
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According to our old 1000lb scale in dads shop, the tongue weight right now is 648 lbs. Still not that much though...
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I was always under the impression that a WD hitch is supposed to put some wt on the front end, otherwise what good is it? I would say his measurements were pretty good.
IF, you put 1000# on the hitch and you adjust the wd to raise the rear, you are putting some wt on the front and it will have to make the front lower than it was in the "no load" condition.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:17 PM   #135
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What you say is true but you can shift too much weight to the front. This is indicated by the front being lower than empty. But at one time this was how it was done. More recently that notion seems to have changed somewhat. I suppose it could vary by truck manufacturer. But this is what the ford manual says. It would be interesting to hear what other brand instructions are!
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The front should go up without WD. Then the WD should bring it back down. Question is "how far". I would say not below empty based on the Ford instructions.
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1/8" would indicate he is not putting very much wt on the front. Leaning on it will do that.
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truck empty-- front 40 1/4", rear 40 1/4"
camper hooked no WD-- front 40 3/8", rear 39 1/4"
camper hooked with WD front 40 1/8", rear 40"
Good report !!! I have been wondering how well the Anderson can distribute the weight, and you have the fender measurements to prove it. Several trips across the scales should be even more proof.

Do you have something other than a stock suspension ??

With a 700 lb. tongue weight (compared to your 648 lbs.) , my trailer raises the front almost 1/2" (compared to your 1/8"), and lowers the rear axle 2" (compared to your 1") without the spring bars attached.
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I think acadianbob has some good advice. The wd hitch needs to spread the load just enough, not too much. If the there is not enough weight on the back axle, you won't have "sway control", you'll have "out of control". It will be more dangerous than with no wd hitch. Your measurements show that you are puuting some weight on both axles. Try backing it off a little to see what happens maybe so the front is the same height as with no load. The nice thing is you have virtually unlimited adjustibilty. I think you'll be able to dial it in just right.
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I got the Andersen hitch all setup, it would have only taken 30-40 mins to assemble everything. But my hitch was missing 1 of the big washers that goes between the nut and bushing also I had to put 1 link extension in the chains because the brackets were too close to the propane tank for my taste. Luckily my dad owned an excavating company until he retired 4 years ago, he had everything in his shop that I needed. Everything went together very well, the directions were good also.

I don't know what the actual weight transfer is but here are the measurements that I had. We did weigh the tongue of the trailer the other day with a 1000lb scale we had in the shop, tongue weight was 648lbs.

Also all these were with 1/4" compression of the bushing.

truck empty-- front 40 1/4", rear 40 1/4"
camper hooked no WD-- front 40 3/8", rear 39 1/4"
camper hooked with WD front 40 1/8", rear 40"

Hopefully we will be going camping in about a month, so I will report back with more then.
So do you adjust how much weight it transfers by the amount of links? Or can you adust it by how tight the nut holding the chain is?
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