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Old 01-01-2014, 12:07 PM   #31
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We currently have an '11 Ram 1500 with a 5.7 Hemi. I added 25% over progressive rate springs and bags. That took care of a lot of the sag. The 5.7 in the 1500 is the same as in the 2500 and 3500 and has more than enough power to tow.

The problem arises after the engine. Like what was mentioned above I too didn't like the way the truck handled when pushed towards its limits. Personally, because of the handling, I ordered a bigger truck.

One thing of note. Some weeks ago a lady couldn't get her car stopped due to slippery conditions and hit the back end of our Ram at an angle. Fortunately I had a ball mount in the hitch at the time and that took the brunt of the damage. Ball mount and hitch were bent and the chrome on the bumper cracked. I went to the local dealer to get the work done.

The body shop manager showed me the hitch they took off and told me I probably shouldn't have been towing the TT with the heavy tongue weight I have. I told him that was the hitch that came with the truck from another dealer. He said it it was added after the dealer took delivery of the truck and it was an aftermarket. The one they installed is an official Ram hitch. They had to lift the box to install it.

So, no matter what you get for a truck, make sure the hitch has the same capabilities.
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Old 01-01-2014, 12:32 PM   #32
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... How is a truck with less engine and trans, less frame, smaller axles and brakes and lighter duty tires rated to tow more
Now you know why I call the stickers "Lawyer stickers". They have nothing to do with what the actual capacities and capabilities of the trucks are. It's a CYA sticker.
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Old 01-01-2014, 03:40 PM   #33
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Now you know why I call the stickers "Lawyer stickers". They have nothing to do with what the actual capacities and capabilities of the trucks are. It's a CYA sticker.
I'm with ya there. Problem is, most dealers know nothing at all about tow vehicles, and little about the camper they are selling you. Easy for first time shoppers and inexperienced trailer tow customers to get something they or their TV cant handle.
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Old 01-01-2014, 04:56 PM   #34
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I had an 09' F150 with the max trailer tow package. It towed my camper ok, plenty of power but when I added weight to truck when towing, such as scuba gear, or wood, or extra passengers, I was uncomfortable with the way it handled. I added air bags which helped with rear sag, but not handling. I just didn't feel "safe" with it and that's a bad feeling when you have your family with you. It sometimes felt like the camper pushed the truck.
My truck also is a daily driver but not to the extent in miles as yours. After some research, I went with a F350 diesel. Yes, it costs more in initial cost, maintenance, and fuel, but to me, it is well worth it. I have to repeat, "TO ME" it was worth it. It towed so much better, fuel mileage was better towing and not towing and the power is unbelievable. It rides the same as my F150. The truck feels solid towing and that is a very good feeling when your towing 8k behind you. I also was looking into if I ever upgraded to a bigger TT.
I replied to your post not to persuade you one way or the other, just to let you know my experience. Whichever way you go, diesel or gas, I would definitely get a 3/4 ton or better. good luck.
This is a good discussion. I like the words "to me".

When I drive around campgrounds, I see plenty of Jumbo campers being pulled around with a lot less than a 1/2 ton pick-up. Those people are comfortable pulling their rigs with a TV that I would never consider. "to me", bigger is better but that's just me. You need to decide what's right for you. No perfect answer. If you are looking at 1/2, 3/4, or 1 ton trucks, you are looking in the right area though.
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Old 01-02-2014, 09:04 PM   #35
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Funny, when I'm at the campground I either see toads going by or hear the rattle of an angry oil burner saying "give me something to pull". Not to many light duties.
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Funny, when I'm at the campground I either see toads going by or hear the rattle of an angry oil burner saying "give me something to pull". Not to many light duties.
See the same except the oil burners are just rattling and stinking up the air.
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Now that everyone has got that out of their system. When will we go through this debate again?

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Old 01-02-2014, 11:56 PM   #38
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I would get a 3/4 diesel or better yet, a 1 ton to haul your 7500# trailer - my 1 ton Ram diesel with about a 2000# payload (incl trailer tongue weight) tows my 7500# loaded trailer with absolutely zero strain everywhere.

For commuting, my fav is a Merc Grand Marquis. You can get a newer model with low miles for under $7K and get 300K miles with normal maintenance and normal replacement items - ask cabbies and cops. Plus they are built like a tank and will take a beating and get around 24 MPG at 65 MPH.

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Now that everyone has got that out of their system. When will we go through this debate again?

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What debate?
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"The debate" You know.

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