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Old 12-26-2013, 10:51 PM   #1
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Another 1/2 ton vs 3/4 thread...daily driver

I am throwing this out there as I want to get some opinions on the 1/2 ton vs the 3/4 ton group based on exp. in non-towing situatuons.

My job requres that I travel a bit. Currently my TV (2011 Ram 1/2 ton) is both the daily driver and TV for our 7500# loaded TT. I dont envision trading the trailer for some time but the truck is a diffrent story. I am hard on cars traveling a lot for work. The truck is very nice for many reasons....a confortable ride on long trips and the ability to go into jobsites without issue for work. I average 30+K a year and my truck has 78k and its only 2 years old so my issue is what do i do next.

The 1/2 ton Ram pulls the camper OK, the truck suspension is the main issue...even though the truck has over a 10K towing capacity the bulk of the payload is eaten up by the tounge weight of the TT. Thus the delima.....Gas mileage is not great empty at an avg of 18mpg empty on the HWY. Its good enough for me. A 3/4 diesel cant be much better but in two years I will be ready for a new truck. Do i opt for a 3/4 oil burner vs another 1/2 ton with a marginal tow rating for a daily driver ?

What would you do? The 1500 Ram Eco Diesel has me intrested for both towing and empty MPG but I am afraid i will only find myself back in the weight concern after I load the RV and bed with 2 weeks worth of goods. The kids are only getting older and we will start taking more stuff for our trips.

I likely would get more life out of a oil burner than a gas engine but is the that worht the cost of the Diesel over Gas?
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Old 12-26-2013, 11:11 PM   #2
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I too have the 2011 Ram 1/2 ton with 5.7 hemi and get much better than 18, close to 22 on the highway without the camper. With the camper on flat ground no wind and 60 mph it is near 11mpg. From St.Chuck to LOZ it is closer to 9.5 to 10. This is probably going to be the way I will go in the future, cost of entry, maintenance and operation to my mind favor the 5.7 gasser. If I were going to larger I would consider a 5er and probably a 1ton or larger diesel. To me the jury will be out for a long time on the new high performance diesels and life span. I think it was true in the 60's and no less true now, there is no replacement for displacement. Life expectancy of long stroke low rpm diesels is nearly forever, change the formula and they begin to appear much like gassers. My 5.7 in tow/haul mode is still running slightly less than the rpm of standard engines upto the mid to late '70s of 3200@70. Ain't computer management neat? YRMV
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Old 12-27-2013, 12:36 AM   #3
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Another 1/2 ton vs 3/4 thread...daily driver

There are a whole bunch of over spun threads on gas vs diesel or light vs heavy duty. You can get quite a bit of info from those, so it wouldn't be a good idea for everyone to replay them out here again. As far as Dodge's light duty diesel, let's see what happens when all of the publications long term test this thing. What I want to know is would slapping bags on the rear axle increase payload?
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Old 12-27-2013, 05:55 AM   #4
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My neighbor delivers travel trailers all over the USA, his 1998 Dodge Ram Diesel 3/4 ton just hit 750,000 with only regular maintenance done on it. He just put the truck into semi retirement and replaced it with a newer truck. It is another 1998 Dodge Ram Diesel 3/4 ton with only 175,000 miles on it. (1month newer)
I hope my 2004 Dodge diesel will go that long.
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If you aren't particulary in need or want of the diesel power, why not consider a 3/4 dodge or other brand with a new gas motor. I don't think you will get quite the mileage of the 1/2 ton, but you won't have the purchase and maintenance expense and you will get what you really want, improved suspension.
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Old 12-27-2013, 08:50 AM   #6
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A 3/4 ton truck is gonna ride pretty harsh compared to your current 1/2 ton. The only one that may change that somewhat is the 2014 2500 Ram with the optional air suspension. The amount of air pressure in the 3/4 ton tires is there regardless though. The Rams can be aired down with the light load switch on the dash though is you are running with no payload.
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Old 12-27-2013, 09:15 AM   #7
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There are a whole bunch of over spun threads on gas vs diesel or light vs heavy duty. You can get quite a bit of info from those, so it wouldn't be a good idea for everyone to replay them out here again. As far as Dodge's light duty diesel, let's see what happens when all of the publications long term test this thing. What I want to know is would slapping bags on the rear axle increase payload?
My understanding is it will not increase payload, only helps out the suspension.

The brochure i got with mine was very specific in that regard.
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Old 12-27-2013, 09:43 AM   #8
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With a 3/4 ton you will get payload but you still have to careful I know people with the 3/4 GMC and are not within the limits when towing and really do not care. I do not care if it is gas or diesel you going get around 11 mpg towing. I get 18 without towing. But I could move a house with the f250 has the power and torque to do it. Maybe not with a gas, maybe a hemi. I don't know, for long term I think a diesel will last longer mileage wise. Plus and minus to both. But for towing I wouldn't go back to gas. Just my opinion I'm not a wrench type guy. Good luck with your decision. "Happy New Year to all"
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Ryand, if what you have is working, why not just get a newer version of what you have?
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Old 12-27-2013, 10:53 AM   #10
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As the saying goes, just because you can afford to buy a diesel truck, does not mean you can afford to drive a diesel truck. The additional cost of ownership of a diesel needs to be considered. Besides the premimum we pay for diesel fuel there are other real costs. My diesel takes 13 quarts of oil every 5,000+/- miles. DEF adds cost. Fuel filters need to be changed. Etc, Etc, Etc.

I love the way the diesel truck tows, but I limit use of the truck to towing as much as possible. Under normal driving situations, I would never consider a diesel truck for everyday use. It is way too expensive.

My 2 cents...
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