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Old 11-11-2013, 10:17 PM   #121
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where you at oakman that you are on salty wet roads?
That photo was taken in early spring this year when we were driving through the Appalachian Mountains. There was still quite a bit of snow in the upper elevations.
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This is worst than talking politics !!! Not very helpful...
Got me confuses more than anything else, and didn't convince me to cash out an extra 10 000$.
I'm pulling 5 months of the year , mostly on flat land...no mountains.
So I gas I'll stay with gas for now.
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I just bought my diesel in March and love it. Traded a 2007 Dodge 1/2 ton for the Ford. So far it has been cheaper to drive than the Dodge. Do I do enough towing to justify a diesel? No! Am I glad I went with a diesel? Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-01-2013, 01:21 PM   #124
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I'll get the grape Kool aid!
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Old 12-01-2013, 02:14 PM   #126
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I'll get the grape Kool aid!
That'll work. This thread originally started back in the pioneer days with " my Quarter horse can pull just a bigger plow than your Clydesdale"
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That'll work. This thread originally started back in the pioneer days with " my Quarter horse can pull just a bigger plow than your Clydesdale"
That's why I pull with Morgan's better MPB....
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Old 12-01-2013, 02:27 PM   #128
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That's why I pull with Morgan's better MPB....
Sorry Idaho, my Shetland pony gets better MPB's. Takes longer to plow the field but it has cheaper operating costs.
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Sorry Idaho, my Shetland pony gets better MPB's. Takes longer to plow the field but it has cheaper operating costs.
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Perhaps but while you are still plowing I am on the porch with a creek cooled ale....
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This is worst than talking politics !!! Not very helpful...
Got me confuses more than anything else, and didn't convince me to cash out an extra 10 000$.
I'm pulling 5 months of the year , mostly on flat land...no mountains.
So I gas I'll stay with gas for now.
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The math makes sense. $10,000 more for the truck, 60-80% of that $10,000 you will get back when you sell it, easier to get fuel when your on the road with your trailer pulling into truck bays at truck stops, fuel seems to be more expensive but considering you will you will get more then a 50% increase in MPG fuel is cheaper, and you can't beat the performance. Even if you tow only 5 times a year if a few of them are longer trips well worth it.
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Old 12-01-2013, 04:20 PM   #131
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Amazing how so many claim that diesel isn't worth the extra cost but interestingly enough...Dodge 1500 ecodiesel is here, Colorado/Cheyenne coming out with their own diesel and Nissan has a V8 cummins coming for the Titan...to name a few...think these guys (manufacturers) know it's value to the consumer or they wouldn't be introducing us to more Diesel engine options



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Old 12-01-2013, 04:53 PM   #132
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And bottom line they both pull a trailer from point A to point B. The diesel boys keep trying to convince the gassers how much better they are and the gasser boys JUST DON'T CARE. I guess they are just trying to convince themselves they made the best choice for themselves. No other reason they keep hounding everyone on how much better a diesel pulls like it's something that was just discovered and put on the market.

If you pull a load from A to B in a set amount of time, what makes the difference in how it was pulled and why is one way of pulling it better than the other?
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And bottom line they both pull a trailer from point A to point B. The diesel boys keep trying to convince the gassers how much better they are and the gasser boys JUST DON'T CARE. I guess they are just trying to convince themselves they made the best choice for themselves. No other reason they keep hounding everyone on how much better a diesel pulls like it's something that was just discovered and put on the market.

If you pull a load from A to B in a set amount of time, what makes the difference in how it was pulled and why is one way of pulling it better than the other?
The facts are the facts and i am certainly not trying to push anyone to get a diesel. But i have had both and as long as i have a trailer i am sold on diesel. I just do not like that diesels are attacked for too costly or too much maintance because none of that is true and i once believed that to. If your happy with your gasser that is great i was once to.
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And bottom line they both pull a trailer from point A to point B. The diesel boys keep trying to convince the gassers how much better they are and the gasser boys JUST DON'T CARE. I guess they are just trying to convince themselves they made the best choice for themselves. No other reason they keep hounding everyone on how much better a diesel pulls like it's something that was just discovered and put on the market.

If you pull a load from A to B in a set amount of time, what makes the difference in how it was pulled and why is one way of pulling it better than the other?
OC...you are definitely right in your statement...I just like keeping everyone on their toes...including mine...enjoy FL!
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OC...you are definitely right in your statement...I just like keeping everyone on their toes...including mine...enjoy FL!
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Just get a little bored with the diesel boys telling how much better they tow. If they both get to their destinations, how is one way better than the other and besides, what makes the difference? It's asinine!

gljurczyk and I pulled similar trailers to Goshen, he pulled with a diesel and I pulled with a gasser, we both arrived at the same time at the same place. Because he had a diesel, he pulled better! Duh!
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I guess gas drivers like hearing their trucks engine work. I prefer to set my cruise on relax and ride. A little satellite radio for background noise and enjoy the drive. My wife is usually reading on her nook, so all is good.
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When a thread states to bash people instead of offering experiences to compare it is no longer worth being part of it, time to delete this thread
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I was one of those "I will never get a diesel, not worth the extra money" guys for years. My wife "made" me test drive a new 2014 Chevy 3500 diesel in August. Guess what I tow with now? Makes towing so much less stressful. Trans rarely comes out of 6th gear. Temps stay well in safe zone. Engine brake stops truck so well I hardly have to put my foot on brake pedal at all.
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I guess gas drivers like hearing their trucks engine work.
when we moved to Mi in 05 from MD I bought a 28ft enclosed trailer and made 5 trips back and forth with our house hold goods. running I68 and I70 thru the hills i got sick of the 04HD 6.0 gasser sitting in 3rd or even 2nd trying to make the hills at 65MPH. I would also not like it pulling my current coach . that is why I drive a oil burner. put 12k behind it and it makes the drive a lot pleasurable..
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when we moved to Mi in 05 from MD I bought a 28ft enclosed trailer and made 5 trips back and forth with our house hold goods. running I68 and I70 thru the hills i got sick of the 04HD 6.0 gasser sitting in 3rd or even 2nd trying to make the hills at 65MPH. I would also not like it pulling my current coach . that is why I drive a oil burner. put 12k behind it and it makes the drive a lot pleasurable..
you are very right. I had an 09 6.0 gasser. Constant shifting and RPMs all over the place. Hills that would have my old truck shift down 3 times will get my Allison to go from 6th to 5th, at WAY less RPMs than the gasser would have been running. My towing trans temps are what my gasser truck was when not towing anything.
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