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Old 11-05-2013, 08:58 AM   #61
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I through around the idea of getting a diesel but my camper is only 7000 pounds fully loaded and my old Nissan Titan pulled it well I just didn't trust the truck anymore. I bought a tundra with the 5.7. The truck pulls amazing. Yes of course when a good hill approaches I down shift and am running between 3 and 4000 Rpms. But I can hold speed with out a problem. Smaller hills truck will stay in gear and not shift. You have to know how to tow with a gas engine and all will be good. One day I may get a bigger camper and then a diesel will probably be required. I bought a truck for the camper I have now and it's new and don't see me getting a new one for a while not a truck I think I will need for a future camper. I will cross that bridge when I get there. I work with a guy that is the same way about diesels swears by them and talks down on people that want to tow with a gasser. I get in arguments with him all the time but he is blinded. I guess the is just a big story about. Each to his own as long as your happy and feel safe tow with whatever the heck you want.

Great point WYO. There is the factor of towing knowledge and skill. A novice pulling with a gas engine will make that engine scream going up a grade. I'm pulling a 11,200 lb 5th wheel with my 6.2L gas and I can manage gears, RPMs and speed pretty good with the combo of that engine and transmission. I'm probably on the high side of weight of most gassers out there and tow that kind of weight comfortable enough for me.
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Old 11-05-2013, 08:58 AM   #62
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I was planning on buying a diesel this spring but I'm not so sure after reading this thread. I want something I can get in, turn the key and drive. When I get somewhere I want to be able to turn the key off and get out. With a diesel it sounds as though I would have to let it idle till it's warm and leave it running during errands and let it run for a few more minutes to cool down before I can shut it off. If this is true, I think I would soon be wishing I would have bought another gasser.
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With a diesel it sounds as though I would have to let it idle till it's warm and leave it running during errands and let it run for a few more minutes to cool down before I can shut it off. I
Not a wise thing to do, just start up and drive, the only thing diesel does not like is short drives and not getting up to full operating temp as this causes condensation in the engine and the last thing you want is water where it is not supposed to be, it likes to get up to temp but not by idling, it's not a good idea to idle a gas engine too much either.
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Idling...hard on all engines
No warm up...hard on all engines
Short trips...hard on all engines
Cool down...good for all engines...esp air cooled and turbo engines

BTW: I have been driving diesel pick ups for 20 years and I rarely "cool the turbo", but I don't drive like a teenager....if I work it hard then I idle for a minute.
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Old 11-05-2013, 02:32 PM   #65
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Don't know what model Tundra your friend had or if it had the tow pkg. I've been in the Rockies and Cascade mtns. several times with my 5.7 with tow pkg and the temp gauges never moved past center of normal 95+ outside and 11k ' in the mountains. 56k on the clock over 20k pulling 9k+ 5r.
its a 2011 or 12 model...has best towing package and and aux tranny cooler....we were doing 65-68 mph comiing out of durango by way of sippapu to santa Rosa ....at turn to interstate he said he had to really push his rig to keep up and backed off....I asked him to join on here and give you his EXACT experience so you don't get it second hand.and he can answer any questions....I don't own a tundra but his truck is real nice....it was a TT loaded to approx 8k lbs...he loves it and I hope he posts here and clarifies my 'smoker biased' comments...... (tho mine neither smokes nor is loud )....lol
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Idling...hard on all engines
No warm up...hard on all engines
Short trips...hard on all engines
Cool down...good for all engines...esp air cooled and turbo engines

BTW: I have been driving diesel pick ups for 20 years and I rarely "cool the turbo", but I don't drive like a teenager....if I work it hard then I idle for a minute.
Gas or Diesel, those 10 degree or less mornings, I would let any vehicle warm up a few minutes before gingerly driving to let the drive-train fluids warm up. Normal temps, I just let it run for 30 seconds, or about enough time to plug in my phone, before taking off.

Only thing, with any turbocharged engine, I would let it idle for a minute during everyday use. That gives you a minute to check your messages you missed on your phone while you were driving.
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I went from a gas to a diesel and, although the diesel has more power, it certainly is not night and day difference. I was never in a situation with my gasser that I wished for a diesel. The gasser pulled fine with power to spare. The diesel pulls fine with more power to spare. Sorry to burst the diesel bubble but that's the way I see it.
I wouldn't trade my Diesel for Two Gasser's.

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I wouldn't trade my Diesel for Two Gasser's.

And I wouldn't trade my gasser for 2 diesels.
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and i wouldn't trade my gasser for 2 diesels.
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This discussion goes beyond whether you like diesel or gas. When I posted earlier should have clarified my main reason for switching from the 6.0 gasser to the duramax is because with my 6.0 gasser my maximum trailer towing weight was 9300lbs. I stuck with the exact same chassis but got the duramax with the Allison transmission that came with the same 3:73 gearing as my gasser. With that upgrade my max trailer weight jumped up to 15,800lbs. It pulls our tt with ease. Our gasser not only struggled in strong winds but I could not get any better than 6 mpg while pulling, so for me it was a no brainer. Let's focus on being informative to those who asked for advise, and stop criticizing others. Adios!
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