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Old 12-01-2013, 07:24 PM   #141
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I guess gas drivers like hearing their trucks engine work. I prefer to set my cruise on relax and ride. A little satellite radio for background noise and enjoy the drive. My wife is usually reading on her nook, so all is good.
As do we, put in in Tow/Haul mod and set the cruise at 60, except we listen to books on tape.
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And bottom line they both pull a trailer from point A to point B. The diesel boys keep trying to convince the gassers how much better they are and the gasser boys JUST DON'T CARE. I guess they are just trying to convince themselves they made the best choice for themselves. No other reason they keep hounding everyone on how much better a diesel pulls like it's something that was just discovered and put on the market. If you pull a load from A to B in a set amount of time, what makes the difference in how it was pulled and why is one way of pulling it better than the other?
OC you said it the best that I have read in this thread. If you have what is needed to do the job who really cares if it is gas or diesel? Yes I am a diesel owner but I have also had my fair share of gassers. It really boils down to personal preference and that's it.
I personally bought my new diesel because I use diesel trucks for work and I love diesels. However, gas will do the same thing a diesel does. I also bought a diesel because I tow much much much heaver loads than just a TT so it was a good choice for me. Would the right gasser have done the same? Yes it would have. As I stated before neither gasser owners nor diesel owners have the right to bash the other. It all boils down to personal preference and what you like better! Just my two cents
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Old 12-01-2013, 07:32 PM   #143
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When a thread states to bash people instead of offering experiences to compare it is no longer worth being part of it, time to delete this thread
Don't see any people bashing. Just difference in opinions being stated.
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Don't see any people bashing. Just difference in opinions being stated.
I was thinking same thing
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Unlike many on the road, at least you have the correct size truck for your current and future trailer .... very smart.
I totally agree!! I thought I had enough in an 8.1L DRW 4x4 CC, but I didn't..I had to have a diesel! WELL, OK, maybe not HAD to have, but it sure has been nice!
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...and are the superduty's coming out the wood work lately or what!!.. great truck (but im biased).lol
I've noticed that as well...interesting.

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..I had to have a diesel! WELL, OK, maybe not HAD to have, but it sure has been nice!
Some things are just a priority...like having a TV that can easily tow what is behind it
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I totally agree!! I thought I had enough in an 8.1L DRW 4x4 CC, but I didn't..I had to have a diesel! WELL, OK, maybe not HAD to have, but it sure has been nice!
Yep ... same as me. The Hummer H2 could have towed it as long as I didn't approach the GVWR of the trailer, although, still illegal. I would rather not run that 6.2 (415 ft-lbs) up the Appalachian Plateau and Blue Ridge Mountain interstates at 40 mph. I would rather run with traffic at almost double the rated torque (800 ft-lbs) hence diesel power!
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Unlike many on the road, at least you have the correct size truck for your current and future trailer .... very smart.
I researched towing weights, etc. for months prior to making the purchase and, despite suggestions from others to just get a F150 for better gas mileage, I held out for the right vehicle. The F350 6.7 Diesel DRW (or equivalent) was the ONLY safe TV to pull the 41 ft 5er I plan on getting in a couple of years. I feel much safer for myself and others on the road having plenty of horses to pull that much weight. Its not only safer but will have less wear and tear on the engine and tranny in the long run. I travel throughout the country and have seen way too many underpowered vehicles towing IMHO way too much weight. I couldn't imagine attempting to tow 15K pounds through 10-20 degree inclines/declines with crosswinds with a smaller truck. I've see it and its downright scary and I stay away from those vehicles.
Is it more than enough truck for my 26 footer? Absolutely but the truck should be selected first, then the trailer. The current trailer is for learning purposes as I never towed before 3 months ago. I thought it best to learn with 26ft/8K before going to 41ft/15K.
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Another F250 ... very nice. Any issues? We will be hooking up our TH (small by comparison to your TT) to our F250 for the first time when it comes out of storage in a few months.

No issues towing 11 mpg. These new trucks are very capable towing safely, and could tow much larger and heavier and be in safe zone.
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I totally agree!! I thought I had enough in an 8.1L DRW 4x4 CC, but I didn't..I had to have a diesel! WELL, OK, maybe not HAD to have, but it sure has been nice!
I wouldn't try to pull that much weight without diesel but that's just me. I'd rather have a little extra juice when needed. I just like the towing power of diesel. Despite the claims of many...gas just doesn't have the same power in the mountains with sharp inclines/declines/winding roads. I feel much safer having extra GCWR than is needed.
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Awesome!!..doing it all right the first time!!...and are the superduty's coming out the wood work lately or what!!.. great truck (but im biased).lol

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I'm trying to do it right anyway. A bit intimidating at first. I went from a small sport car (Nissan 350Z roadster convertible) to this mammoth beast. Sure can't round those sharp curves at 70 mph anymore! Absolutely love this Super Duty!
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I wouldn't try to pull that much weight without diesel but that's just me. I'd rather have a little extra juice when needed. I just like the towing power of diesel. Despite the claims of many...gas just doesn't have the same power in the mountains with sharp inclines/declines/winding roads. I feel much safer having extra GCWR than is needed.
The rig I had before the one in my sig was a 355 and was a good bit lighter, but still needed a diesel to pull it on the interstate. The 8.1 did pretty good on the two lane roads, but just not have the torque of today's monster diesels. So I bought a 6.4L DRW CC F350 and it did just fine! Night and day difference over the gasser.
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The rig I had before the one in my sig was a 355 and was a good bit lighter, but still needed a diesel to pull it on the interstate. The 8.1 did pretty good on the two lane roads, but just not have the torque of today's monster diesels. So I bought a 6.4L DRW CC F350 and it did just fine! Night and day difference over the gasser.
Nice rig you have there!
Really nice to go up any hill with minimal strain while underpowered gas engines are just struggling. Sure diesels are more expensive by about 8K but with proper maintenance will last much longer than a gasser. Did I mention they are a lot safer too when towing 15K+? I've seen too many gassers on the side of the road that tried to do too much. The cost of a new engine/tranny would just about pay for the diesel IMO. It's not just the diesel though...it's the upgraded brakes on these diesels that makes them safer. It doesn't really matter if you can convince the gasser to pull the weight...can you get it to stop safely without brake failure?
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Nice rig you have there!
Really nice to go up any hill with minimal strain while underpowered gas engines are just struggling. Sure diesels are more expensive by about 8K but with proper maintenance will last much longer than a gasser. Did I mention they are a lot safer too when towing 15K+? I've seen too many gassers on the side of the road that tried to do too much. The cost of a new engine/tranny would just about pay for the diesel IMO. It's not just the diesel though...it's the upgraded brakes on these diesels that makes them safer. It doesn't really matter if you can convince the gasser to pull the weight...can you get it to stop safely without brake failure?
Here we go again. Now the "weight police" are on the gas engines as not being safe!

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Would have to agree with you on the diesels, they do feel a lot more powerful, don;t know if you still get that same feeling when pulling your coach or not. Also, the only problem that I have encountered with our 2500HD 6.0 Gas Truck is, when coming down a hill, I try to pump the brakes and not hold them down for a long period of time. Even doing this I get some chatter through the brake pedal. More like an ABS Chatter and not a Rotor Problem, its only when you get some heat in the rotors? Kind of at a loss because any other time on flat a level ground, all is perfect. Pulling the Rotors off next week just to check, may replace them with some Ceramics, they tend to perform better under heating conditions:
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