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Old 12-23-2012, 12:23 PM   #1
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Anyone hear of a "41" Endorsement to tow in CA

Found about this requirement on the Chevy Duramax forum, but apparently here in oddball cali, if you have a trailer between 10,000 & 15,000 GVWR, you need to get an endorsement on your license after taking a test. below is the link to the CA DMV website that has the information. Going to the DMV tomorrow and try and get mine. The second is the website for the study pamphlet you need. Anyone go through this process?

Recreational Trailer Endorsement

Recreational Vehicles and Trailers Handbook 2011 - Table Of Contents

The top link on the second page has the pdf file you download. My fear is, could my insurance company deny benefits if I had had an accident while driving my trailer this past year? What a croc. Hope this helps some of us.
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Old 12-23-2012, 02:25 PM   #2
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I know here in NY we have an "R" endorsement for RV's over, if memory servies me 20000GVW, or over a certain length. Main reason I pay to keep my D.O.T. physical card current and just use my CDL.
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yep need a class 1 or a G endorsement which requires a road test with the type of equipment you plan on running here is sask if the trailer is over 10k. Seems to be a pretty standard prackice almost everywhere.Also if the GCWR is over 11,000 your need to register your GCWR and pay road tax here also have to have a safety certificate which costs an additional 50 bux or so. As with anything one should always be aware of the laws where you live and anywhere you plan on traveling to ensure you are legal.
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Old 12-23-2012, 07:24 PM   #4
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When I read the RV and Trailer guide pdf that was on one of the links you posted, it seems to me that with a basic class C license...

"If the towing vehicle weighs 4,000 lbs or more unladen, then you can tow a fifth wheel travel trailer exceeding 10,000 lbs but not exceeding 15,000 lbs GVWR when towing is not for compensation".

I may be reading this wrong or not seeing all the facts, but it looks to me that you should be able to tow a trailer rated between 10k and 15k with a basic class C

This information was on page 3 of the guide.
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if i tow to any of the states/provinces that have this requirement, im just going to plead ignorant if need be. but i already have a cdl with combination and air brakes, so i should be good to go regardless. even without it, if traveling to one of those areas with that requirement, i wouldnt stress over it.
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:36 PM   #6
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When I read the RV and Trailer guide pdf that was on one of the links you posted, it seems to me that with a basic class C license...

"If the towing vehicle weighs 4,000 lbs or more unladen, then you can tow a fifth wheel travel trailer exceeding 10,000 lbs but not exceeding 15,000 lbs GVWR when towing is not for compensation".

I may be reading this wrong or not seeing all the facts, but it looks to me that you should be able to tow a trailer rated between 10k and 15k with a basic class C

This information was on page 3 of the guide.
That is how I was reading it as well, but people on that other website are adamant that one should have it. I would hate to get pulled over here in wacki cali and have to park it somewhere where I have no confidence in its safety. I also second your at how vague these regulations are. Thanks for the help.
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:41 PM   #7
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yep need a class 1 or a G endorsement which requires a road test with the type of equipment you plan on running here is sask if the trailer is over 10k. Seems to be a pretty standard prackice almost everywhere.Also if the GCWR is over 11,000 your need to register your GCWR and pay road tax here also have to have a safety certificate which costs an additional 50 bux or so. As with anything one should always be aware of the laws where you live and anywhere you plan on traveling to ensure you are legal.
Thanks for the help. As for nations/states recognizing each others drivers license, if you are legal in your state or province, must not the others honor your license for what it allows where issued? It would be crazy that one would have to forgo traveling to a place because that place requires all drivers and not just citizens to have their license. I don't know, just rambling, but thanks for the help again.
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Up here in British Columbia, ICBC, our [wonderful] government insurance company, requires a "Class 4 or 5 with heavy trailer endorsement (code 20) B.C. driverís licence" for towing an RV over 4,600 kilograms (10,120 lbs). I sure would not ignore this since if you got in an accident, you would get nailed big time by the insurance company.
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The ONLY licensing requirement you need to worry about is that of your HOME state. If your home state doesn't require any type of endorsement to drive/tow your RV any state you pass thru can not require you to meet their licensing requirements.
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The ONLY licensing requirement you need to worry about is that of your HOME state. If your home state doesn't require any type of endorsement to drive/tow your RV any state you pass thru can not require you to meet their licensing requirements.
Thanks for the help. It is interesting to hear what other jurisdictions require of their citizens. Have a good one.
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