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Old 07-26-2012, 11:10 PM   #1
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anyone towing Model 831BHDS with a 1/2 ton

So i purchased a 2012 F-150 plat w/eco boost and max tow pkg. This gives me a max payload of 1900lbs, hitch tongue weight is rated at 1130lbs. I will have about 500lb of people/cargo in the truck.

So my question is anyone out there hauling that big of tt? From everything I can see number wise I should be ok, Might have to upgrade my tires on it. Any thoughts and opinions on if I should or anything I'm missing? It will be my first TT so all a little new to this.

trailer in mind is the Flagstaff 831BHDS.

Thanks for any help and advice.
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:27 AM   #2
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I wouldn't do it.
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I would't do it is a little vague... any reasons why?
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:38 AM   #4
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As long as you tow smart I think you will be ok. That is a lot of camper for a half ton though. A high wind could make it a little scary. But with the weight I think you are in your limits withI that truck. I would be over with my Nissan Titan.
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:00 AM   #5
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I'm very near GVWR with my truck which has a 1500 lb payload capacity.
Scale numbers from a month ago coming home after 4 days camping;
Ft axle 3450
R axle 3550
Truck weight hitched, spring bars attached 7000
GVWR 7200
We were not packed heavy for a long trip.

Numbers from last weekend packed light for just a 2 day trip;
Ft axle 3450
R axle 3500

Weight on trailer tires hitched, both times, spring bars attached 5550

The GCWR for my truck is 13500. Total weight on the road about 12500.
My truck is rated to tow 7700 - BUT - if I add another 1000 lbs in cargo to the trailer I will be adding about 120 lbs to the truck load and then I'm even closer to the max payload.

I looked for some specs on the TT you mentioned. I think that those numbers are dry weights. You tongue weight could easily get to 1400 or 1500 lbs.

Does that help?
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I'm very near GVWR with my truck which has a 1500 lb payload capacity.
Scale numbers from a month ago coming home after 4 days camping;
Ft axle 3450
R axle 3550
Truck weight hitched, spring bars attached 7000
GVWR 7200
We were not packed heavy for a long trip.

Numbers from last weekend packed light for just a 2 day trip;
Ft axle 3450
R axle 3500

Weight on trailer tires hitched, both times, spring bars attached 5550

The GCWR for my truck is 13500. Total weight on the road about 12500.
My truck is rated to tow 7700 - BUT - if I add another 1000 lbs in cargo to the trailer I will be adding about 120 lbs to the truck load and then I'm even closer to the max payload.

I looked for some specs on the TT you mentioned. I think that those numbers are dry weights. You tongue weight could easily get to 1400 or 1500 lbs.

Does that help?
Correct me if I'm wrong here still new to this, the trailers dry ship weight is 6974lbs, max cargo is 1676lbs, so a gvwr 8650. Now if you take 12% of that weight when using a weight distribution hitch is 1038. So how do you get to a 1400-1500 lbs tongue weight?

EDIT:

Just thought I'd give some more numbers here, truck is rated with a GCWR 17100lbs.
front axle gvwr 3750
Rear axle gvwr 4050
GVWR 7650
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:26 AM   #7
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So i purchased a 2012 F-150 plat w/eco boost and max tow pkg. This gives me a max payload of 1900lbs, hitch tongue weight is rated at 1130lbs. I will have about 500lb of people/cargo in the truck.
I don't think the maximum tow package automatically gives you the maximum payload package.....I think they are 2 different options. If you have both, that is a good thing......especially the maximum payload package.....that is the big short-coming of a 1/2 ton pickup.

I also think the maximum payload package is only included on the Crew Cab, 6.5' bed. That is also a good thing, because that gives you a wheelbase of 156" vs. the 145" of the short bed, or Super Cab with 6.5' bed. That longer wheelbase will help with towing a 34' travel trailer.

The listed payload figure can be misleading.....it all depends on what your truck actually weighs before adding your passengers, gear, and trailer tongue. A trip across the scales now before you buy the trailer would be good to figure out what your actual empty weight is. Then add a couple hundred pounds to the listed tongue weight, add your passenger load, figure out what camping gear is going into the bed of the truck, and see if that along with the empty truck weight is below the GVWR...preferrable well below the GVWR.

With that length of trailer, a top quality WDH with integrated sway control will be a must.
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Thanks for the reply Mtnguy,

It is actually a short box so the 145" wheel base. But the max payload I pull directly off Fords towing guide for the 145" 4x4 with ecoboost, says 1900lbs if you have max tow pkg... but ya guess a trip to the scale the next time I'm by one and see what I weight in with a full load of full and myself. Won't be buying a tt till next year, just trying to get all my ducks in a row so I know what my limitations and top ends are.
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To double check everything, what final drive ratio do you have, and what is the GVWR according to your driver's side door sticker ??

That is a long trailer for a 145" wheelbase vehicle.
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it's a 3.73 a believe, and the GVWR is 7650,
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