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Old 04-13-2014, 03:16 PM   #21
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dual axles are safer, carry more CCC and are easier to back up, than single axles.
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Old 04-13-2014, 04:23 PM   #22
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tow capacity assumes 150lb driver and nothing else in the TV. Every pound you add reduces your tow capacity by a pound.

So the 5000lbs is 4500 after you put in your family (650lbs you said).
The TT weight is listed as DRY WEIGHT..no battery, no propane, no hitch (on the tv).

You'll add to the TT some water, food, bedding, toiletries/towels, pots/pans/dishes/silverware. No doubt chairs as well, if not lights, tables, firewood, pool toys, drying racks, etc.
And food too.

1000lb isn't a big load. So that 3500 dry trailer is 4500 and with your family's load in teh TV you're AT your limit. You've left no 'margin for safety'.

Go for the 17.
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Old 04-13-2014, 04:42 PM   #23
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3 or 4 hundred pounds over isn't going to bother the vehicle one bit. If it's on P tires, inflate to 44# and go.
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Old 04-13-2014, 05:20 PM   #24
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Uh. huh...YOU have not taken on the liability and responsibility for the OP telling him to go ahead and exceed the manufacturers ratings.

If he has a failure, shortened tv life, white knuckle ride, tickets, voided insurance for being overweight you'll cover the consequences, right?

We've all overloaded at one time or another...and we've all had to hit the brakes hard or drive in windy or wet conditions or drive at night, tired, on twisty roads...but combine any of them and WHAM! That safety margin could have been enough to make a difference.

Yes, on a flat road on a july tuesday being 500lbs over may not matter much..on that turn where the TT is passing you and the guy in front of you panics and stabs his brakes...that 500 lbs could be why you jack knifed and ended upside down in the median.

I've seen Tv/TT that were certainly underweight upside down in the median more than once...overloading could only have made it worse.
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Old 04-13-2014, 05:33 PM   #25
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...I've seen Tv/TT that were certainly underweight upside down in the median more than once...overloading could only have made it worse.
And you know for a fact it was underweight and that more weight would have made it worse. If the tv and tt were upside down, how could it be worse? I said 3-400 #, and the trailer has brakes also. Just don't like spending other folks $ for nothing. Folks have been overloaded for years, but the highways and interstates are not littered with the results as you claim. The tv stickers have a safety factor built in them. Just because it says x lbs doesn't mean it will fail at x + 300#.

Whatever, the OP will buy whatever he wants and should make up his own mind as to what risks he wants to take. Towing anything is a major risk regardless of whether the tv is overloaded or under loaded.

I'm outta here.
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Old 04-13-2014, 06:20 PM   #26
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Yes. When you see ~2003 explorer with a small stake bed trailer and mattresses and furniture...yes.
Or a small u-haul trailer with a dodge ram attached..almost certainly.

On your second post you state 'towing anything is a major risk...' so why say being hundreds of pounds over is ok? Which is it?
Logic states the larger the load the larger the risk...so a smaller load is safer, right?

And yes, there is a margin in the stats..FOR A REASON. If you go overweight you've reduced or perhaps eliminated that margin, haven't you?



YOU don't know the OP's experience, comfort level or towing conditions. Yet you have no concerns saying to go overweight won't be an issue in any way shape form, ever.

To say "i've gone overweight with no issues' if fine. To recommend others do it? Irresponsible advice IMO.
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Well I don't have any experience towing. Never done it before so safety is top priority for me. I'd like to stay right around the 1k lb rule and the 17 gives me the best chance to accomplish this. But at the same time, maybe the dual axle will be better for someone who's never towed before. My wife and I will just have to make this decision.
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You will find a tandem axle is much easier to tow as it does not have an inherent tendency to sway like a single axle. Suggest a sway control either built into the hitch or a pr of friction bars.
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If it's on P tires, inflate to 44# and go.
I don't think tires should be inflated over the maximum cold pressure rating. The P-tires that came on my truck were a maximum of 35 psi.
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I don't think tires should be inflated over the maximum cold pressure rating. The P-tires that came on my truck were a maximum of 35 psi.
From:http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...jsp?techid=196

..."This additional range of inflation pressure (in this case, between 36 and 44 psi) has been provided to accommodate any unique handling, high speed and/or rolling resistance requirements determined by the tire and vehicle manufacturers. These unique tire pressures will be identified on the vehicle placard in the vehicle's owner's manual."
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