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Old 05-21-2019, 02:20 PM   #1
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Are there any used AND dependable tow vehicles?

By light weight I mean TT with a dry weight range from 4000 lbs to 5500 lbs and a gross weight range between 5400 lbs and 6800 lbs.

The trailers I've been researching are basically couples trailers between 23.5' up to about 28' with my main interest hoping to find one 25 feet or less.

Our current vehicle is 2007 Sequoia Limited 4.7L V8 4x4, 5 speed automatic with overdrive. 6200 lb towing capacity and 1300 lb payload. 273 HP and 314 lbs torque. Burns regular and is very happy with that grade of gas.

I'm getting 15 mpg around town and out on an interstate highway I can get about 19. I'm not sure what I'd get towing 6000 lbs as I haven't done it yet.

MPG does still make a difference here in Washington state - gas is about $1 more per gallon here then you folks in the midwest pay. The midwest (farm belt) is subsidized (yup, you are all on the dole). I grew up in the heart of the midwest but decided I actually like trees better than tornadoes.

SUV or Truck? I don't have any need for a truck other than occasional towing. There are a number of mountain ranges so it won't just be level ground towing. It's got to be 4x4. I live at the beach and driving on the beach without 4x4 means getting stuck in the sand for sure.
But those trucks sure do have better payload capacity than SUV's which is something I never needed to pay attention to before wanting to tow something this big.
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Old 05-21-2019, 02:38 PM   #3
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This theead/post is a bit incoherent and disorganized, but what I think you are saying is you want to tow 6000lbs current trailer with your sequoia or a used vehicle

If this is the case, tow with what you got, and then decide if it will work for you.
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Except for the torque, your Sequoia specs are very close to my Frontier.
The short wheel base on the Sequoia means you might have some sway issues.
I don't have enough reserve (aka: safety margin) power pulling my TT over the Sierras and I am looking at another TV.
If all roads were flat or downhill, my Frontier does fine.
There was a recent, positive post about a Tundra with the same 4.7 V8.
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Old 05-21-2019, 02:57 PM   #5
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If you want more payload and tow capacity, which you'll likely need if you're looking at trailers that will be pushing the max tow rating of your Toyota, then there are 1/2-ton trucks out there that will fit he bill. I've heard good things about the F-150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost as well as the 2.7 EcoBoost. These are likely to outperform any gas V8 in the mountains since they have turbos and elevation isn't going to rob much power. Fuel economy will be similar to a V8 when towing but should be a bit better when driving empty.

Another option would be to look for a 2006-2007 Ram 2500 with the 5.9 Cummins or a 2006-2007 GM Silverado/Sierra 2500HD Classic with the LBZ Duramax, these are pre-emissions and quite reliable and will have no problem towing a trailer like that. You should be able to find some for less than a newer 1/2-ton truck but you won't have all the latest tech goodies the newer trucks come with. They should also return better fuel economy while towing compared to a gas truck.

Just realize you need to check the payload capacity and tow options of each individual vehicle you're looking at, do not go by the mfr "max tow rating" and don't assume that all models of that vehicle have the same rating as they do not.

Without knowing your budget it's hard to give you a realistic recommendation. "Used" could mean anything in terms of price, age, etc.
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abehil, I live on Camano Island, so I understand driving conditions here.
Just so you know, I bought a used 2014 F150 SCREW 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost with the Max Tow package and 1828lbs of payload capacity.
I drove from Camano to Ocean Shores and back(unloaded). My mpg was a little over 20 for the trip.
It tows my 6000lbs+ couples TT effortlessly. I usually average 10-11mpg, towing up and down the West Coast.
I absolutely love the truck.
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abehil, I live on Camano Island, so I understand driving conditions here.
Just so you know, I bought a used 2014 F150 SCREW 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost with the Max Tow package and 1828lbs of payload capacity.
I drove from Camano to Ocean Shores and back(unloaded). My mpg was a little over 20 for the trip.
It tows my 6000lbs+ couples TT effortlessly. I usually average 10-11mpg, towing up and down the West Coast.
I absolutely love the truck.
I happened to look at a 2010 F150 with a V8. Nice but they seem to have problems with the cam phasers. I've read about the Ecoboost. Reports of lots of power but also warnings about wholesale failure of the motor on some costing $$$. How many miles was on yours when you bought it?
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I happened to look at a 2010 F150 with a V8. Nice but they seem to have problems with the cam phasers. I've read about the Ecoboost. Reports of lots of power but also warnings about wholesale failure of the motor on some costing $$$. How many miles was on yours when you bought it?
Bought it with 33k on it.
Ford has sold tons of Ecoboost vehicles, with most having no issues.
I believe that some early model years were more problematic.
On the internet, you'll find every truck brand and truck engine, has had some kind of issues.
I bought my truck from a Ford dealer and was able to buy a Ford extended warranty.
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I happened to look at a 2010 F150 with a V8. Nice but they seem to have problems with the cam phasers. I've read about the Ecoboost. Reports of lots of power but also warnings about wholesale failure of the motor on some costing $$$. How many miles was on yours when you bought it?
I bought my 2010 F150 with a 5.4V8 in 2015 used with 12,000 miles on it. I have since put another 110,000 miles on it. No problems, so far. I had a 2002 F150 before that, also with the 5.4V8. Put quite a few miles on it as well. I guess I have been lucky.

As far as fuel economy, in my experience, the closer your vehicle's tow rating is to the actual trailer, the bigger hit you will take on MPG when towing. Back in 2010, the EB was relatively new, so I passed on it.

I only buy used vehicles, so if it were impossible to get a decent used TV I would be out of luck....Pickups tend to have much higher tow ratings than other choices out there. You can go crazy with options which can dramatically cut the payload, which is another issue.

If you are concerned about Ford, there are plenty of good Chevys out there.
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