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Old 07-08-2015, 09:48 AM   #21
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Bags all the way. Like Coot mentioned, it is easy, especially with the onboard air and cab control. I love being able to make changes to the pressures on the fly if the road surfaces change.
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Old 07-08-2015, 10:07 AM   #22
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I have had both and they both work equally well and provide the same outcome. No issues with either. If I done it again I would choose Timbrens . Here's why. Took me about 5 hours to install air bags with no compressor and about 20 minutes to install Timbrens. Air bags cost about 2 1/2 times more. With those 2 statements , it becomes a no brainer. That's the beauty of knowledge and experience of trying both.
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Old 07-08-2015, 10:16 AM   #23
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Her is the best of both worlds in one product. The AIRLIFTER LoadLifter 5000 Ultimate with a jounce bumper in the air spring. See Link below


https://www.airliftcompany.com/products/air-springs/


I have the Airlifter 5000 but my bags are 5 years old, so they do not incorporate the jounce bumper.


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Old 07-08-2015, 10:30 AM   #24
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I have had both and they both work equally well and provide the same outcome. No issues with either. If I done it again I would choose Timbrens . Here's why. Took me about 5 hours to install air bags with no compressor and about 20 minutes to install Timbrens. Air bags cost about 2 1/2 times more. With those 2 statements , it becomes a no brainer. That's the beauty of knowledge and experience of trying both.
The only problem is with Timbrens, you get what you got with not control, with airbags you control what you get. BIG difference in my opinion/experience. Airbags and compressor well worth the extra expense.
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The only problem is with Timbrens, you get what you got with not control, with airbags you control what you get. BIG difference in my opinion/experience. Airbags and compressor well worth the extra expense.

OC, Unless you have it, it's no good. A theme I detect. Does it really make a difference if you put 4 or 5 lbs of pressure or if you use 60 or 62 lbs of pressure. The control of that pressure is of no value. With Timbrens, if they are required depending on load, they come in play, if not required, they won't come in play.
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" if you put 4 or 5 lbs of pressure or if you use 60 or 62 lbs of pressure" .....WRONG.
it makes all the difference in the world....take a stiff sprung truck..350/3500...when the back is empty, at 80lbs in the tires you'll have one hell of an uncomfortable ride...drop the psi to 50 .... a very tolerable ride....same thing with firestone airbags...been there done that...have timbrens now...wish I didn't.
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:13 PM   #27
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....take a stiff sprung truck..350/3500....


You said stiff and sprung...

sorry... i had to...
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:50 PM   #28
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OC, Unless you have it, it's no good. A theme I detect. Does it really make a difference if you put 4 or 5 lbs of pressure or if you use 60 or 62 lbs of pressure. The control of that pressure is of no value. With Timbrens, if they are required depending on load, they come in play, if not required, they won't come in play.
That's where you are wrong, with 5# there is no action at all but with 60#, it will lift the rear end at least 2" and I can put 1000#in the bed and still not touch the overload, only bring the height down to where it is without a load. On this my friend, you know not of what you speak.
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That's where you are wrong, with 5# there is no action at all but with 60#, it will lift the rear end at least 2" and I can put 1000#in the bed and still not touch the overload, only bring the height down to where it is without a load. On this my friend, you know not of what you speak.

I know your a well respected , long term member of this forum and many believe what you speak is gospel, and I also agree to much what you say, however, the point I am making , and the one you keep missing is that air bags and timbrens provide the same outcome. That being the case, why spend the extra, and take on the extra work of installation for air bags when timbrens can provide the same thing. Unlike you, I have the experience of using both. Therefore , 'my friend', as it relates to this, I can speak with 100% confidence compared to your 50%.
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""I have opinions of my own --strong opinions-- but I don't always agree with them" I see what you mean Rugged.
what say we drop this.......no resolution here......my strong opinion !

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