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Old 06-16-2015, 10:50 AM   #21
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I have to ask did nobody read the 2nd line in the post.
"NO FACTORY PREP" Must be the old rail type.
Even without factory prep, the B&W leaves a completely flat bed- no rails.
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Old 06-16-2015, 06:09 PM   #22
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Missed the "without" in the original post. The Pullrite Superglide with the Superrail kit will still leave you with a slick bed when removed.
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Old 06-16-2015, 06:33 PM   #23
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On a short bed a slider is a must, so unless you want to be getting in and out of your truck to pin-slide-pin then an automatic slider is the way to go. Pullrite makes the best and they sell a rail kit that fits the Ram factory 5er prep. I've used one for years now and am very pleased.
Unless you get a Rockwood or Flagstaff with the Reese Revolution Sidewinder Pinbox, then you don't need a slider.
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Old 06-16-2015, 06:37 PM   #24
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...and our new fifth-talked into a new Reese 16K with a Revolution pinbox (eg Sidewinder) in between...and the pinbox portion just failed 3 weeks ago...
What happened to the Sidewinder pinbox?
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Old 06-16-2015, 07:09 PM   #25
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I had a Reese Slider for about 1 month. It got to be a problem for me and my wife to get it to slide. I changed our for a PullRite Super Slider. Best move I did. Still a learning curve to get it to release when unhooking from the truck, but it works! My truck by the way is a 2013 Ram 2500 MegaCab Diesel. It pulls the Cedar Creek 38CK with no problem. I also installed a 5th Airborne on the pin box which smooths out the ride.
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Old 06-16-2015, 08:42 PM   #26
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Well, here is what happened....I am reposting a private message:
We were pulling with a Reese Revolution and $1500+ later, we are using a Pullrite Superglide. The Reese revolution system depends on two bolts that fasten into nuts that are welded inside the top of the pin box. This is all sealed. When in revolution mode, the movement comes from the pin box, rather than from the hitch. On our shakedown cruise this May, we pulled up to a lovely mountain RV campground, near Marion, NC. Prior to leaving, we noticed that the metal shim (part of the revolution system) was backing out. Knocked it back into place. Seemed smooth and normal traveling, until we began our steep and winding last 7 miles. Clunking noises. When unhitched, my husband went to tighten the two bolts. He discovered that the middle bolt was loose. The nut which is welded and enclosed in the pin box and secures the middle bolt had come loose/unattached. We were essentially functioning on one bolt. It was a miracle that we made it to the camping spot in one piece and alive to tell the tale. We could not move the rig. Got the new hitch and then a tech team came to our camp site and reconfigured the pin box to transport mode. We now are using our pin box in transport mode (fixed pin box) and we feel secure, with the Pullrite. We actually had a Pullrite on our previous fifth and it was a gem. This experience with the Reese Revolution really shook us up.
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Old 06-16-2015, 08:52 PM   #27
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Well, here is what happened....I am reposting a private message:
We were pulling with a Reese Revolution and $1500+ later, we are using a Pullrite Superglide. The Reese revolution system depends on two bolts that fasten into nuts that are welded inside the top of the pin box. This is all sealed. When in revolution mode, the movement comes from the pin box, rather than from the hitch. On our shakedown cruise this May, we pulled up to a lovely mountain RV campground, near Marion, NC. Prior to leaving, we noticed that the metal shim (part of the revolution system) was backing out. Knocked it back into place. Seemed smooth and normal traveling, until we began our steep and winding last 7 miles. Clunking noises. When unhitched, my husband went to tighten the two bolts. He discovered that the middle bolt was loose. The nut which is welded and enclosed in the pin box and secures the middle bolt had come loose/unattached. We were essentially functioning on one bolt. It was a miracle that we made it to the camping spot in one piece and alive to tell the tale. We could not move the rig. Got the new hitch and then a tech team came to our camp site and reconfigured the pin box to transport mode. We now are using our pin box in transport mode (fixed pin box) and we feel secure, with the Pullrite. We actually had a Pullrite on our previous fifth and it was a gem. This experience with the Reese Revolution really shook us up.
That is the wedge you're talking about that came loose which is held by 2 bolts. That's why it is IMO necessary to get a custom wedge with only bolt holes and no slots like the factory wedge. I made mine and have over 40K miles on it and the bolts have never loosened.
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Old 06-16-2015, 09:29 PM   #28
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To any who do NOT have the new style factory 5th wheel prep systems and may be considering a B&W Turnover w/Companion...be aware that B&W VERY STRONGLY states NOT to use a rotating pinbox (Revolution/Sidewinder) with their Companion Hitch. They are concerned for the hitch twisting in place due to additional forces from the non-standard pivot point.

Personally, I have an older B&W Companion in my SB GMC and LOVE it. I would probably have my Revolution Hitch unlocked if I wasn't using the B&W, but have yet to come even close to having the need. I wouldn't want the stress that turning that sharp would put on my trailers tires/axles anyway.
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Old 06-16-2015, 09:43 PM   #29
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B&W all the way. I will not waste money on another hitch. Easy to hook up camper and easy to remove from truck by yourself. 😊
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This is my first time owning a 5th wheel but I went with a 18K Superglide. Love the ease of using it from day one. I didn't not want to deal with a manual slider so I just went with what I had done a lot of research on.


Pros: look very heavy duty, is actually very heavy duty, automatic cam adjust for turns as sharp and as fast as you can take them.


Cons: looks very heavy, is actually very heavy. Not a do-it-yourself removal for storing. I think that is my only complaint, although I only use my truck bed for towing so it hasn't been a real issue yet.
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