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Old 01-01-2019, 01:27 PM   #21
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Best Emergency Sway Stop Procedure

I used to have sway events and hand applying the trailer brakes helped.

This may be a little off topic, but stop sway before it can even start. Get a Hensley or propride hitch. With Hensley or propride sway is impossible and will never happen. Itís all physics. I bought one and itís a game changer when towing.

This topic ďbest emergency sway stop procedureĒ wouldnít even exist.
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Old 01-01-2019, 01:48 PM   #22
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Had no idea it was impossible. And that sounds like a challenge.

Trailer fishtailing (to use the real, scary term) is primarily poor weight and balance. 10% to 15% of the trailer weight must be on the ball. Not knowing your tongue weight is no excuse.

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Old 01-01-2019, 02:50 PM   #23
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Trailer fishtailing (to use the real, scary term) is primarily poor weight and balance. 10% to 15% of the trailer weight must be on the ball. Not knowing your tongue weight is no excuse.

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Or not having the right tow vehicle to do the job at hand...
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Old 01-01-2019, 03:57 PM   #24
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What I am seeing here is that if you have the proper TV, the proper weight balance on the trailer, the best WDH, and the best sway bars, there will never be a sway event. Sorry, folks, but no matter how great the setup is, there is still a strong chance of a sway event when least expected. Cross wind, flat/blow out on the TT or TV, hydroplaning, road conditions, collisions, collision avoidance-I may have missed a few. Be prepared and never say never.
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I have a 5'th wheel now, but am thinking of possibly downsizing in the near future.

Even if 'numbers' say that I won't need a WDH setup with my 2500HD...I'll still tow with a WDH setup.

Just like I did before I went with the 5'ver!
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Old 01-01-2019, 11:44 PM   #26
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What I am seeing here is that if you have the proper TV, the proper weight balance on the trailer, the best WDH, and the best sway bars, there will never be a sway event. Sorry, folks, but no matter how great the setup is, there is still a strong chance of a sway event when least expected. Cross wind, flat/blow out on the TT or TV, hydroplaning, road conditions, collisions, collision avoidance-I may have missed a few. Be prepared and never say never.


Sway happens because thereís a pivot point between your tow vehicle and trailer. With a Hensley or propride hitch that pivot point is eliminated and the trailer cannot affect the tow vehicle. Like I said before, itís all physics. A Hensley or propride essentially turns your tow vehicle and trailer into a school bus. A school bus can still be affected by wind, but it wonít sway. There are other benefits of a Hensley. My dad accidentally locked up his trailer brakes in the rain getting off the freeway down a hill. Because of the Hensley the trailer and his TV stayed perfectly straight and his antilock brakes did what theyíre supposed to and brought it to a clean stop.

Also for me having a toy hauler loading is never the same. Sometimes I have 275 lbs behind the rear axle and other times I have upwards of probably 900. Depends on what Iím hauling. That really affects handling and tongue weight. With my Hensley all I worry about is my tow vehicle and that both axles are loaded properly. Thatís easy with the wd screw jacks. The Hensley doesnít care where the weight is in the trailer. The 10-15% means nothing cause sway isnít possible. Obviously you still want some tongue weight though like any other hitch.
Check out Hensley YouTube videos or theyíre website. And Iím just a Hensley owner who loves it.
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Old 01-02-2019, 04:56 PM   #27
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deepseadan, That is an interesting post. I did not realize the tongue weight did not matter or effect them or rather the truck and trailer. Can you point to where HA or PP explains this?

I've used someone else's PP & trailer (a wet 30' Airstream Classic) with my truck and a buddys truck before getting it returned to the owner. I did scale it and it was easier and more precise as to adjusting my drive & steer weight. But at the time I wasn't so much focused on the tongue weight although if I still had the weight slips I bet it did change according to the scale slips.

On a side note one of the PP jacks broke if you will and after sending pics of it the owner just sent us another. No hassel no paperwork no charge.
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deepseadan, That is an interesting post. I did not realize the tongue weight did not matter or effect them or rather the truck and trailer. Can you point to where HA or PP explains this?



I've used someone else's PP & trailer (a wet 30' Airstream Classic) with my truck and a buddys truck before getting it returned to the owner. I did scale it and it was easier and more precise as to adjusting my drive & steer weight. But at the time I wasn't so much focused on the tongue weight although if I still had the weight slips I bet it did change according to the scale slips.



On a side note one of the PP jacks broke if you will and after sending pics of it the owner just sent us another. No hassel no paperwork no charge.


Your best bet would be to call and talk to Terry at Hensley and he can explain how they work in accordance to tongue weight. Iím not very good at posting internet research or numbers.

Obviously Iím sure you understood but just in case others didnít Iím not implying to have 2% or 30% tongue weight when you use the Hensley. Itís still a good idea to shoot for the 10-15% but with my toy hauler thatís not always possible.

My toy hauler empty to a campground usually has around 18% - ish tongue weight and fully loaded with all the load at the back of the hauler around 8%- ish. Crazy as it sounds my TV and TH feel better at 8% tongue weight. Also for me it doesnít matter if the trailer is slightly nose down, level or nose up. It all feels the same.

Itís a great hitch. I wish every trailer came from the factory with one. There would be a lot let sway accidents. Of course youíd probably still get the people who have no idea what theyíre doing and incorrectly install or maintain it, or think they can tow a 10,000 lb trailer with a Camry. Again call and talk to terry at Hensley.

Edit- oh and the screw jacks. One of my Hensley screw jacks did loosen up internally. It was because I was using an impact driver to lower and raise them. The impact drivers impacts caused the internal hardware to loosen up. Not that you were using one but I thought Iíd throw that out in case anyone is.
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My toy hauler empty to a campground usually has around 18% - ish tongue weight and fully loaded with all the load at the back of the hauler around 8%- ish. Crazy as it sounds my TV and TH feel better at 8% tongue weight. Also for me it doesnít matter if the trailer is slightly nose down, level or nose up. It all feels the same.
If your truck pulls better at 8% tongue weight...that sounds to me like you need more truck as you are using the trailer to take weight off of the truck.



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If your truck pulls better at 8% tongue weight...that sounds to me like you need more truck as you are using the trailer to take weight off of the truck.









Yeah I think a bigger tow vehicle is always a good thing. Honestly it tows great either way, it just feels better balanced with less tongue weight. It was the opposite before I had the Hensley.

Since I bought the Hensley Iím a completely different traveler. Pre Hensley I used to continually adjust my equalizer hitch, load differently, and try and new things to help with sway. I hated it when semi trucks would fly by me and hated driving in high winds. Just never felt fully safe and one day a semi passed me during our so cal Santa Ana winds. It caused me to have to grab the trailer brakes and straighten me out.

Since Hensley Iíve traveled in crazy high winds, had trucks pass me at 75mph and I donít even think twice. Itís that good. Iím sure other with Hensleyís or PP would also agree.
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