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Old 03-17-2010, 10:59 PM   #1
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Blue OX sway control likes dislikes?

Hello, new to this forum but not to RVing and I have recently purchased my first Forest River product a Flagstaff 829BHSS. I have yet to take delivery so don't have exact weights. One of the other F.R. dealers did have the Rockwood version (8298SS) and they are now posting delivered weights into Canada. So the posted dry weight is 6412 lbs. with a dry hitch weight of 822lb (this included all the same options that I put onto my Flagstaff) with an overall length of 31'6".

My tow vehicle is a 2006 F150 Supercrew XLT4x4 with the 5.4L, W.B. of 150.5",3:73, tow rating of 8600 lb., hitch weight of 860lb and GVWR 14,500lb. I generally travel with between 800-1200 lbs of gear kid wife etc.

My question is I'm in the market for a weight distribution hitch and my local RV dealer carries the Blue OX W.D.H with sway control. I've been to a few other forums and done searches for blue ox and really only found one or two people that have used this W.D.H. Has anyone on this forum used this hitch? If so what are your likes - dislikes? ease of setup and does it actually control sway?

I have looked at some of the other W.D.H. that have been talked about at length on this forum such as the reese dual cam but am reluctant to weaken the frame by mounting a sway control device.This seems to me like the dual cam mounting system becomes the weakest link? I have read in other forums about the husky centerline being recalled but cannot actually find anything concrete on this. and last but not least the Equalizer hitch is also on my short list as well. I have seen the H.A. but have been unable to locate a Canadian dist.
Thank you to all that post. your input will go to keeping me on the straight and narrow down the road.
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:35 PM   #2
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I don't understand how you think a Reese Dual Cam weakens the frame? I have one, and everything is bolted on, no drilling or welding required. There might be one hole drilled for the snap up brackets, but that is part of the weight distributing, and has nothing to do with the dual cam sway control. You will get this hole with any system. The dual cam is built in to the spring bar ends, and will not weaken the frame, as far as I can see.
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:51 PM   #3
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Hello Windrider.
The video that I've seen shows the brackets for the cams having 2 holes drilled into the frame for mounting with one bolt on the opposite side to hold for the snap bracket. I do like the overall design of the dual cam but when I saw this video the first thing that came to mind was this is a weak point. And with the cams connected to this bracket having to control the forces induced by sway, that just blew my mind that this actually works. With the other 2 hitches that I mentioned.. Equalizer and Husky the mounting brackets go around the frame making it more of a unitized system.

How did you install yours? How long have you used your dual cam setup? No issues obviously? Because I will say that this was my first choice.
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Old 03-18-2010, 12:13 AM   #4
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First of all, welcome to the forum.

With thousands of hitches installed on thousands of vehicles I have never heard of anyone breaking a frame or having any such problems by using the Reese system. Considering the known tensile strength of steel there should not even be a concern about weakening the frame. Consider all the holes put in it by the factory for setup on the alignment jigs on the lines. Putting a hole in the frame will not weaken it. Don't rule out an otherwise fine system due to unfounded fears of others.
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Old 03-18-2010, 01:00 AM   #5
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Hello NWjeeper.
Thank you for the welcome.

I should have clarified my position a little better. It isn't the frame that I'm concerned with more with the way the bracket is mounted to the frame. 2 bolts to control one side of the dual cams? This is just my opinion. other than that I do like this system.

I am however still looking for O.P. opinions, real life experiences with the Blue Ox sway pro WHD.
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Hello NWjeeper.
Thank you for the welcome.

I should have clarified my position a little better. It isn't the frame that I'm concerned with more with the way the bracket is mounted to the frame. 2 bolts to control one side of the dual cams? This is just my opinion. other than that I do like this system.

I am however still looking for O.P. opinions, real life experiences with the Blue Ox sway pro WHD.
Think of it this way. 100s maybe 1000s of trailers are towed everyday with class 3 hitch setups of up to or more than 5000lbs on a single 5/8" pin.

The strength of a single 1/2" x 20 tpi Grade 8 bolt is as follows:

Under tension: 22674lbs
Under Shear: 17870lbs

Not knowing what size bolts they are using this is just an example but it is remarkable to me the amount of strength in a bolt. I would see no problem with the 2 bolts used in the system assuming they did their homework and used the correct size bolts for the load applied.
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:09 AM   #7
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The Reese system is not rigid system and it is designed to give way after a predefined turning angle so the the bolts have to carry a shear load that is probably nowhere near the max capacity.

If you have doubts about the system don't buy it as you will never be at ease. Buy the one that puts you at ease.

What is a H.A??????
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:11 AM   #8
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Renaultc,

I've been using my Reese Dual cam for a couple of years, over 2000 miles, mostly highway, and haven't had any problems. Many on here have a lot more miles and experience. I have a 2001 Ford Supercrew, 139 inch wheel base, and am max tow weight when loaded.

If your concern is the extra holes in the trailer tongue, take a good look at the tongue. You will find holes where the break-away switch is mounted. Maybe even the gas bottles. Holes for the electrical junction box mounting. Possibly holes for the plate the battery box sits on. If you're scared 1 hole in each side of the tongue will weaken the frame, better get back to engineering school. I don't mean that in a bad way, I'm just trying to say that the factory builds a lot of strength in to the tongue. Could you imagine the lawsuit if the tongue broke off at highway speed and the trailer flipped and killed someone? Not even Forrest River has enough money to cover that one.
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Just to hijack for a moment!! I was told that the Equalizer is noisy. Is this true? obvious metal on metal. When I heard that I am swaying to the Reese Dual Cam. $300 more and no noise. I like the simplistic approach to the Equalizer. I could spend $300 on some new speakers for the truck maybe! Oh the country music blasting on the country roads, take me home, where I belong.....
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Old 03-18-2010, 05:56 PM   #10
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The Reese is noisy too. A little Vaseline on the cams quites things down. Never grease them, per Reese, as they work on metal to metal friction. Vaseline is not a lubricant, per se', and it is what Reese says to put on the cams for quietness. Works. I lightly coat mine once per trip, before I leave.
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