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Old 04-28-2010, 04:20 PM   #31
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my coworker has an 04 like yours and had the same thing happen to him twice I guess a common problem with those trucks.Hopefully the new version of the part will hold up better..Dont let everybody get you down about the ford stuff I ahve had ford trucks ,gmc's ,and now have a toyota tundra they have all been good trucks and everyone of them have or had been taken back to the dealer for something so dont matter what brand ,hell my tundra has 20000 miles on it and has had 2 exhaust manifolds replaced and the gas pedal assembly so just the way it is good luck with the repair happy travels sir...
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:00 PM   #32
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Glad to hear you've got your truck back. It's hell being without your favorite ride, no matter how short the separation is.
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:11 PM   #33
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my coworker has an 04 like yours and had the same thing happen to him twice I guess a common problem with those trucks.Hopefully the new version of the part will hold up better..Dont let everybody get you down about the ford stuff I ahve had ford trucks ,gmc's ,and now have a toyota tundra they have all been good trucks and everyone of them have or had been taken back to the dealer for something so dont matter what brand ,hell my tundra has 20000 miles on it and has had 2 exhaust manifolds replaced and the gas pedal assembly so just the way it is good luck with the repair happy travels sir...
This apparently is a common problem with the Ford 4x4s. I asked the mechanic today to explain what happened. This is the way I understood it: The vacuum solenoid sits on the firewall on the passenger side....right under a drain for the cowl area. Water will get into the solenoid which could cause the malfunction, or it could freeze and bust that puppy. The actuators that engage the front hubs work by vacuum, but a lose of vacuum is what engages them......constant vacuum will keep the actuators from engaging. If any mechanic on the forum reads this and that is not the way it happens, please correct me.

The new selenoid has a water diverter surrounding it, which tells me that this has been a common problem that Ford had to come up with that fix.
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This apparently is a common problem with the Ford 4x4s. I asked the mechanic today to explain what happened. This is the way I understood it: The vacuum solenoid sits on the firewall on the passenger side....right under a drain for the cowl area. Water will get into the solenoid which could cause the malfunction, or it could freeze and bust that puppy. The actuators that engage the front hubs work by vacuum, but a lose of vacuum is what engages them......constant vacuum will keep the actuators from engaging. If any mechanic on the forum reads this and that is not the way it happens, please correct me.

The new selenoid has a water diverter surrounding it, which tells me that this has been a common problem that Ford had to come up with that fix.
Did Ford have a recall on this do you know of? The service dept can go back in the records.
By the way, I know how you fell now while looking at your truck on the back of the tow truck, I just had to have my Saturn towed from my drive way about an hour ago, this remined me of your pic...I know go ahead and say it, it's time for a pay back after what I said in the early part of your thread.......
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Old 04-29-2010, 08:49 AM   #35
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Did Ford have a recall on this do you know of? The service dept can go back in the records.
By the way, I know how you fell now while looking at your truck on the back of the tow truck, I just had to have my Saturn towed from my drive way about an hour ago, this remined me of your pic...I know go ahead and say it, it's time for a pay back after what I said in the early part of your thread.......
No payback coming your way. This thread was all in good fun. Any car or truck can break down. I posted earlier concerning the good service of my '79 F150 after 27 years and 185,000 miles. I have been lucky with my Jeep, as it has failed to start only 1 time in 85,000 miles......on a 12 year old battery....it does have another battery in it now. My S-10 Blazer ended up a roll-back 2 times in 75,000 miles after letting me down on the side of the road. The missus' Honda hasn't had that honor yet.

Hope the problem with your Saturn is small.

As far as I know, Ford does not have a recall on the 4WD actuator problem....but should have if they have had enough of them to malfunction that a "new and improved" part was made to correct the problem.
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Too bad Ford didn't learn from Jeep's mistakes. The Jeeps prior to 96 had a similar vacuum actuator for the front axle to engage the right side in 4x4 mode. These failed quite often and starting in '97 Jeep did away with them completely. The front axle on the Jeeps is always connected and turning the front driveshaft, they just aren't engaged inside the transfer case when not in 4x4. I say eliminate the unnecessary stuff and keep it simple. Also don't like electric push buttons for 4x4 either, give me a solid linkage!
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Too bad Ford didn't learn from Jeep's mistakes. The Jeeps prior to 96 had a similar vacuum actuator for the front axle to engage the right side in 4x4 mode. These failed quite often and starting in '97 Jeep did away with them completely. The front axle on the Jeeps is always connected and turning the front driveshaft, they just aren't engaged inside the transfer case when not in 4x4. I say eliminate the unnecessary stuff and keep it simple. Also don't like electric push buttons for 4x4 either, give me a solid linkage!
Amen to keeping it simple. When I ordered my 96 Blazer, I specified the floor shifter, and was actually a deducted option. I don't think the F150s even come with that option any more....but the Super Duties do. Before this on my truck, the shifting module went bad, which was covered under the 36/36 warranty. Except for the 4WD equipment, this truck has been maintenance free, other than preventive maintenance. Give me a floor shifter and manually operated lock-out hubs any day of the week.
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Yup, lost the actuator on my '05 early on; covered under warranty fortunately. Think of the thousands of parts that go into a vehicle; one slip-up on one part; and it goes into perhaps a million vehicles. Then you get a thread like this one! : - )
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My truck got the best mileage ever on the trip to the dealer. 25 miles and nary a drop of gas used.
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Yup, lost the actuator on my '05 early on; covered under warranty fortunately. Think of the thousands of parts that go into a vehicle; one slip-up on one part; and it goes into perhaps a million vehicles. Then you get a thread like this one! : - )
Bob, did your truck symptoms match what my truck did ??
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