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Old 05-27-2015, 10:30 PM   #41
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Great feedback. I'm learning a lot that I wish I knew before I bought my rig. I won't get to my trailer until next week, but here is some additional info

Heritage Glen WBT282RK 35'
Dry weight. 6620
Hitch weight ??? 700
Rear kitchen may put a little extra weight at back???

TV 2015 Navigator (short wheel base)
Towing capacity 9000 lbs
GCWR 15,200
GVWR. 7,450

I'm beginning to see a problem here.
Front GAWR. 3350. Rear GAWR. 4330

Tire load capacity 1487 lbs
Huskee wdh, will have to get model

I really haven't had a chance to play with different settings, or get it on open road to 60-70 mph.

Thanks for all the help. Don't see any Rockies in the near future!
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Old 05-27-2015, 10:43 PM   #42
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Don't recommend towing at 70 mph. Most TT tires are rated for 65 mph max.
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:41 AM   #43
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You were sotra right, the coil springs will give you a bounce, but the 20" tires will be very stiff! All of these big wheel tires have a very low tow rating, so as said before you will have to bite the bullet and replace the wheel and tire combo to fix the problem.
I have to disagree here. The factory 20's on trucks will all have a substantially higher load rating than the GVWR, even if you deduct the 10% because they are P rated. There are also several XL load range options available for the OP in the factory size that will have almost 11K load capacity between the 4 of them. No need to change wheels, but, once again, I would recommend either an XL load range, or better yet the LT. Once more on that, though, there is only 1 LT available in that size, the BFG TA KO2.
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Old 05-28-2015, 11:11 AM   #44
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That 700 pound tongue weight sounds light for a trailer this size. Anyone purposely step up the loaded tongue weight in this type of application to achieve better performance? Thinking 1000 to 1100 with a 1200# WD as long as the GVWR can handle it. I know airstreams and others bias the axles back and add tongue weight. I ask this not knowing if an undercar reciever is made for this vehicle that is rated for anything over 1000# TW.
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Old 05-29-2015, 05:23 PM   #45
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My question is about the "auto leveling" on the SUV. My Expedition had that and the rear suspension was air bags, only, no coil springs. My first TT only weighed about 3,500# and I didn't bother with a wdh. I would hook it up and then hear the compressor kick in, and it would level everything... just like it did with the bass boat. If the Navigator has the same thing, it will try to do the same thing, up to it's max psi for the bags... How does it "auto level"?


I hate to do it... but I have to say that I think anything you do with this rig is a Band-Aid over a bullet wound. The trailer is too much for the tow rig... in my humble opinion... sorry...
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Old 05-30-2015, 02:45 AM   #46
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Assuming you got a #1000 husky. I doubt the autolevel shuts off because its air only. Lets assume your gonna run at that level regardless. Calculate your ball height. I just measure between the axles and then figure in frame changes to the coupler. Its better than trying to find a perfect slab of concrete. Set the ball at this height in your vehicle with autolevel on. Thats the height its going to run at anyway. Pitch the head at 7 degrees down. Your using a couple of extra degrees because you wil have no squat. I believe you losing your equalization when it autolevels allowing you to bounce on the air. Now go for the unloaded front fender measurement comparison with the loaded measurement. Try 2 loose links on the bars, go to 3 if you want more. 3 loose will be tight. You'll want to raise the tongue with the jack to get it coupled, but you wont be too tight because the autolevel will kick in and it tension like it normally would. Take it for a drive. If it feels good, run by the scales and check weights. This might save you a couple trips...
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Old 06-01-2015, 03:25 PM   #47
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New to travel trailers. I have a 34 foot Heritage Glen, pulling with a 2015 Navigator. I'm getting a bucking motion whe getting to around 45 mph. Using a weight distribution hitch and one friction sway bar. My front wheel well is within 1/2 inch of when unhitched, but rear is about 2" lower than front. Do I need to go up another link on my chains or back off a link? My truck has load leveling shocks. Does this affect anything. I have a lot to learn!
Have not read thru all 5 pages, but this sounds like the WDH is not rated high enough. I don't want my actual loaded TW to be within 100 lbs of the WDH-rating. Getting to close makes the spring bars act more like springs and less like bars. For example, if my loaded TW were 925lbs, I'd skip the 1000 lbs unit, and go to a 1200 lbs WDH. For my own 7xx lb TW, my 1000 lbs Equalizer is rock solid, but not harsh.
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If I missed that..X2 with the brakeman there.
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Old 06-01-2015, 04:17 PM   #49
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found a link that showed the tongue weight at 700 for a 2013 model
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Old 06-02-2015, 10:21 AM   #50
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Great feedback. I'm learning a lot that I wish I knew before I bought my rig. I won't get to my trailer until next week, but here is some additional info

Heritage Glen WBT282RK 35'
Dry weight. 6620
Hitch weight ??? 700
Rear kitchen may put a little extra weight at back???

TV 2015 Navigator (short wheel base)
Towing capacity 9000 lbs
GCWR 15,200
GVWR. 7,450

I'm beginning to see a problem here.
Front GAWR. 3350. Rear GAWR. 4330

Tire load capacity 1487 lbs
Huskee wdh, will have to get model

I really haven't had a chance to play with different settings, or get it on open road to 60-70 mph.

Thanks for all the help. Don't see any Rockies in the near future!
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I've seen around 6620 dry weight, and 700 TW. Since that came from a webpage, I assume it's empty.
Need to know what WDH system you are using, and it's rating.
Until you get some actual weights, I'll estimate:

6620 +1000 (typical estimate of a loaded TT) = 7600lbs
7600 * 12.5% to 15% = 950 - 1140 lbs estimated loaded TW

You need to get an accurate TW measurement, add 100 lbs to that figure, then round up to the next 200 lbs figure. I'm sure you should be in a 1200 lbs setup, possibly 1400. From the problems you are having, I suspect you are using a 1000 lbs unit.

RVWholesalers has the 1200 lbs Equalizer for $469.99 right now. Great deal!
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