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Old 06-18-2013, 10:45 AM   #21
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I agree with others that if you have an RV within specs for a 3/4ton gasser & don't plan on going bigger...the 6.2L Ford & GM's would be a great buy.
If your wanting a used diesel, research/research/research before writing a check on one to make sure it's in great operating condition...IMO, I'd stay with the 6.4/6.7 Ford engines and 6.6L GM/Chevy from '04.5 on up (preferably 6 speed '06-'07 models) also, the Dodge 5.9's have a big fan base.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:47 AM   #22
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THATS BECAUSE THE 5.9 CUMMINS IS THE BEST CUMMINS EVER!!!

way off topic... Ragin, how do you like that superglide hitch? We installed one for my father and he loves it! It does have some rocking in it partially because we had to install the 3 inch lift for clearance of the bed rails... other than the little bit of rocking he loves it!
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Old 06-18-2013, 11:04 AM   #23
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THATS BECAUSE THE 5.9 CUMMINS IS THE BEST CUMMINS EVER!!!

way off topic... Ragin, how do you like that superglide hitch? We installed one for my father and he loves it! It does have some rocking in it partially because we had to install the 3 inch lift for clearance of the bed rails... other than the little bit of rocking he loves it!
Not to hijack OP's thread too much...IMO, if you need a slider "Superglide" is the only option...absolutely wonderful hitch!!!
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Old 06-18-2013, 09:02 PM   #24
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On Chevy - my experience is that you want an 2008 up model year to avoid the injector problems and finding a nice low mileage 08 up for 30K will be really difficult.


This was fixed after the first gen. Of the d-max that was replaced with the 2nd gen in 2004.5.



In our area you can find a lot of 2wd diesels cheap with low miles- because nobody really wants them. I think 4wd is a must in a diesel.
I think in the $30k range you should be able to find quite a few 4wd models with around 100k miles. Of course first gen d-maxs and ford 6.0 can be found for less than $20k and 6.4 fords are cheaper as well. I really dont know much on the dodges on price. Cummins has good engines, dodges auto trannys are notorius (and not in a good way) but thier interior seems to deteriorate a little quicker than most any brand of vehicle, but thats here in OK and we have rather extreme weather conditions, from last years 113°to -27° the year before.

That is my input. I've had a pwr stroke, d-max, and cummins ( in a semi, not a dodge)
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Your payload comment surprised me. Thought 250s were much higher.
yes. I was surprised too. Many are much higher but not all and that is my point. Check the payload before buying. I didn't because I thought buying a diesel I was golden. NOT. at first I didn't believe the door sticker so I took a trip to the cat scales. With 3/4 tank of fuel and 2 adults in the the truck, it weighed in at 8460 lbs. It has a gvwr of 10,000 lbs. that leaves me with 1540 lbs payload but I still need to subtract another quarter tank of diesel off of that. Now granted I have a long bed, crew cab 4x4 lariat edition with spray in Bedliner and a soft tonneau cover. I also have the 36 gallon (or was it 35 gal?) fuel tank. we bought this truck with future upgrades in mind. Sad isn't it?
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Old 06-19-2013, 10:12 AM   #26
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yes. I was surprised too. Many are much higher but not all and that is my point. Check the payload before buying. I didn't because I thought buying a diesel I was golden. NOT. at first I didn't believe the door sticker so I took a trip to the cat scales. With 3/4 tank of fuel and 2 adults in the the truck, it weighed in at 8460 lbs. It has a gvwr of 10,000 lbs. that leaves me with 1540 lbs payload but I still need to subtract another quarter tank of diesel off of that. Now granted I have a long bed, crew cab 4x4 lariat edition with spray in Bedliner and a soft tonneau cover. I also have the 36 gallon (or was it 35 gal?) fuel tank. we bought this truck with future upgrades in mind. Sad isn't it?
This is where numbers are a total PITA. Each and every configuration changes something and it is impossible to give people god advice without knowing exactly what you are comparing.

For example, my 05 F250 6.0 CC King Ranch short bed weighs in at 7300 pounds, giving me 2700 pounds payload.
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Old 06-19-2013, 02:59 PM   #27
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At that price point you could probably find a good low mileage Dodge 5.9 without many options. The Dodge 6.7 is actually usually a bit less expensive as they do not get as good a mileage. Both are extremely durable and need little maintenance. I would probably lean toward the 6.7 motor just to get the 6 speed automatic transmission. It is a gem.

As for Ford - well that price point will get you any number of 08 up 6.4's but I would skip them and look for a 6.7 which I think puts you into the 2011 MY and most likely above that price point. As a 6.0 owner, just don't bother. I bought mine fully expecting to have to tear at least the top end of the motor out at some point. I enjoy that type of thing. For fun I think of way to remove the cab from the chassis in my own garage.

On Chevy - my experience is that you want an 2008 up model year to avoid the injector problems and finding a nice low mileage 08 up for 30K will be really difficult. I looked at a couple that were not low mileage and showed it, but were still in the 40K range. I actually laughed my way right off a dealer lot. People will pay anything for a specific badge on their truck.

Given what you currently have, and what you plan to use it for, I would actually strongly suggest you look at gas trucks. A 2500 Dodge with the HEMI will pull your trailer great, but will feal much more solid than your Toyota. Same for the F250 with the 6.2 motor (that thing should pull it great) and the GMC with their 6.2 engine as well. You could get yourself into a much newer truck for the budget you are working with and not have to worry about maintenance problems down the road.
Jeep, Very Nice thanks. Especiallybthe comments on the gás engine. Thinkin you sabe me some money!
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Payload capacities for the 250 were pretty low until the last couple years but it has more to do with the SRW than 250/350.

My 06 250 SB has ~1900. Have to step up to a DRW in the 6.0/6.4 years to get anything above 3k.
thats true, I guess, but my payload capacity is FAR lower than my combined front and rear axle capacity added together. GVWR is 9200 and Combined AXLE is 10754. So with my 5er attached I still have 624 lbs to go in the rear, 470 in the front and am 460 OVER my GVWR. I am 5280 lbs under the GCWR also.

I assume it is the springs that are the controlling factor.

That is mystifing to me.
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About a year ago now. I found my 2012 F250 on Autotrader..it happened to be a XLT Supercab 6 3/4 ft box 4x2 diesel 6.7 ..It was a Ford Motor Company Executive vehicle.. (they drive them for 3 months or 3,000 miles and turn them in for another) Only dealers can buy theses at a Auction. Mine had 3,100 miles and cost me $33 ,000...i am very happy with it.. i buy DEF at flying j for aroundClick image for larger version

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I had 2 Ford diesels a 6.9 and a 7.3. The 7.3 was a great engine but.......I could not keep a transmission in it.... (My heaviest trailer at the time was 4500 lbs) but getting ready to put the third transmission at 112K was too much....

A few years later (After a gas hog Dodge RAM Hemi ) I found a 53K 2005 5.9 Cummins Duelly & it has been absolutely great had it going on 2 years would do it again it is only 2 wheel drive but that is no problem....... It has limited slip & goes where I want it to...........
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