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Old 01-04-2015, 04:49 PM   #21
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Payload for a 14-15 Ram 3500 SRW CCSB CTD is 4000lbs+. 11,700lb GVW. Plenty for any Silverback IMO. Jump up to a DRW and the payload goes to 5740lbs. Way overkill.
I'm unable to stretch for a 14 or 15 model . Was looking at the 2010, but it surprised me it fell short.

It seems the 2011 GMC 3500 6.6Duramax SRW, is up for the task, with payload above 4000lbs. also.

But is the 2011 edition reliable - I've seen buyers guide reports saying to stay away from 2011.

Many thanks for all the feedback.
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Old 01-04-2015, 05:00 PM   #22
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Maybe its time to start thinking of less trailer?
To those that think Im blowing smoke about weight numbers here is my numbers, not smoke, but actual scaled numbers!
Trailer 34CKTS GVWR of the trailer 13,750.
Scaled trailer weight 13,500
Scaled pin weight 3500
Advertised pin weight 1750
Truck 2007 Ram dually
Scaled empty 8000.
As you can see, I have an older version of the trailer in question.
Oh and FYI I started pulling this with a 2500 HD D/A. But quickly learned and understood overweight is not a lot of fun
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Old 01-04-2015, 05:27 PM   #23
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But is the 2011 edition reliable - I've seen buyers guide reports saying to stay away from 2011.
2011 was the first year of SCR (Selective Catalytic Reduction) or the DEF system where some of the 2011's had problems with NOX sensors and/or DEF pump.

An update was done to the ECM too but I believe that was done though a recall so all of the 2011's should already be updated.
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2011 models are when the gm hd models got the all new frame, different axles, def system, etc. Pretty much everything other than cab and bed different. Even ft bumper and grills changed.....thats easiest way to tell the difference between '07.5-'10's and '11-14s while on the street.
And i believe the '11s on up are better than the '07.5 - 10s, but im sure that is arguable!
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Old 01-04-2015, 07:18 PM   #25
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The trk would pull it in a heart beat, but like you said the payload is a killer. I don't know if his numbers are right cause it the same trk as the dually without the extra-spring and 2 wheels. but engine no problem there alot of people running over weight my 06 dually runs over 10k but my trl. is only 15k loaded its a 42ft, Sierra BH.
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Old 01-04-2015, 10:24 PM   #26
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Scaled pin weight 3500
Advertised pin weight 1750
That's a pretty healthy variation between the advertised pin weight and the actual pin weight. I was expecting maybe 300-500 lbs max.
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Old 01-05-2015, 10:34 AM   #27
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That's a pretty healthy variation between the advertised pin weight and the actual pin weight. I was expecting maybe 300-500 lbs max.

Mostly IMHO because of three things,
1) FR is notorious for building pin heavy
2) the number is/was based on the brochures "dry" weight
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3) we do not skimp. We have solar panels, satellite dish, washer/dryer combo, plus our clothes, 4 golf cart batteries and the rest of the stuff necessary to actually enjoy out time out.
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Another good reason to have a dually
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Old 01-05-2015, 05:36 PM   #29
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As a newbee myself, may I suggest that a value of 2,450lbs be used for the pin weight, the 1950 you posted plus 500 lbs to allow for 25% of the added options, water and cargo that would go into the trailer. Then add 220lbs for the hitch in the bed and allowance for passengers and cargo in the truck. It may add up to 3000lbs or so.


Check the difference between GVWR and curb weight of the TV. It should be at least 3000 lbs to allow for a margin of safety. The tires and Rear GAWR should not be an issue if the above math works, neither should be the GCWR of the TV - my guess.


My Silverado 3500HD Diesel can take 2900 of hitch weight, and that is due to the fact that I need room for 4 passengers, a dog and have a fully loaded (options) on the truck.
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Old 01-06-2015, 12:11 AM   #30
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A GMC I looked at was a dud so my last option before resolving to a dually is a 2009 F-350 SRW 6.4Diesel King Ranch.
The details seem higher then the Silverado
GVWR: 11500
FGawr : 6000
RGawr : 7000

Rated 15300 5th tow & GCWR 23000. As has been mentioned a factor is payload and without weighing i'm only guessing. (some estimate curb weight 6600+)

Am I close here or should I pack up and resort to a dually? I happy to be within limits, but don't want to be overloaded.
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