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Old 06-17-2014, 08:05 AM   #11
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If these are the correct 2:
Flagstaff Classic Super Lite Travel Trailer by Forest River
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Flagstaff Super Lite Travel Trailer by Forest River

does this match your truck:
  • Engine: Vortec 5.3L V8
  • Transmission: MYC
  • Axle Ratio: 3.42
  • Max Trailer Weight kg (lb)
  • Ball Hitch: 4400 (9700) (required equipment: K5L)
  • Fifth Wheel: 4264 (9400) (required equipment: K5L)
  • GCWR Kg (lb): 7258 (15000)


As no GVW is provided for the trailer on the website I would get them from the Yellow sticker on the trailers in question - note the unloaded weight + cargo capacity may give you the same number unless line changes were made that alter the web numbers vs. the production line numbers.

Use the steps provided by Herk for your heaviest scenario

The above quote is exactly the two trailers and my truck. I am so close to meeting specs, but I want to be safe also. Thanks for all the help. I guess I have to figure out if I want to be that close to the edge. This is really difficult as the heavier trailer is the one that would best meet our needs for extended camping, but the lighter trailer gives me about a 600 pounds margin of error if I were to max everything out.
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:06 AM   #12
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Also is it safe to assume that to get that trailer to the max weight would take about 1585 pounds fully loaded. I think I would be hard pressed to add that much weight as I will not be traveling with water on board just our clothes dishes etc. Am I just wishing here or is this something that can be done safely twice a year.
LOL - NEVER safe to assume anything.

My camper has an "available payload" of 1900 pounds and I am forever worried about what to take and what to leave behind (and we also don't carry more than a few toilet flushes worth of water in the tank).

Once you start modifying the camper (and you will!) those "available pounds" will start rapidly unrolling.
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:14 AM   #13
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My wife probably will not be happy with me but the math indicated with the heavier trailer that I am too close to that ragged edge.
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:21 AM   #14
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My wife probably will not be happy with me but the math indicated with the heavier trailer that I am too close to that ragged edge.
OK, personal advice (free and worth every penny you paid).

Buy the camper you need and if it turns out you don't have enough truck; get the right truck. You will most likely keep the camper through several tow vehicles in any case.

If you make a compromise on the camper, and she is not happy, you will need to replace BOTH (hopefully not the DW).

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Old 06-17-2014, 08:35 AM   #15
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Lou, you speak some great words, when I just mentioned to the wife that I am thinking of canceling this trailer it was like I dropped a bomb in the room. Just wondering if there are ways to lighten the load, maybe 20 pound propane instead of thirty, empty tanks water and propane. The jump form a 1/2 ton to a 3/4 is a huge amount of money for us at this time so we probably would have to make at least one trip to Florida with our existing rig, I don't not mind go slower, because I have time, I just do not want to be unsafe or damage my vehicle. Nor do I want it to be a white knuckle experience.

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Old 06-17-2014, 08:42 AM   #16
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My wife probably will not be happy with me but the math indicated with the heavier trailer that I am too close to that ragged edge.
Fyi.
People "say" they pack "light" but in reality average "user" added items to a camper is #1000 +

You may say that silly but I challenge anybody that thinks that to weigh everything that goes in your camp "and truck"

Tools
Leveling boards / chocks
Extension cords
Chairs
Pet food
Bedding / pillows
Clothes
Shoes / boots
Toiletries/ hair dryers /curling irons / hair spray etc etc
Cleaning supplies
Bath Towels / rags
Dishes/plates/cups/silverware / pots / pans / griddles / coffee maker / toaster / dish rags / towels
Bug repellents / sun screen
Food /milk /steaks /pop water beer
Coolers/ ice / liquor
Firewood extra tv ' s / dvd's / Cd's
Stabilizer pads
Wh full of water
Bag boards
Portable grill
Bikes
Passengers
Dogs / cats
Books
Portable radios
Hammock
Portable fans
Games / puzzles
Cooking tri pod
Axe
Generator
Lanterns / lantern gas
Flash lights
Water hose
Sewer hose
WDH hitch and sway items

See what I mean?

Now as herk mentioned "modifications"

Jack stabilizers
Remote power awning
Add on battery / cables
Battery tenders
Remote water filter
Water regulator
Surge guard portable or hardwired
Satellite and receiver
Max air vent covers
Awning hold down poles
Awning lights led or otherwise
Slide out toppers
Step support
Towel dryer


I think the point is made lol!













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Old 06-17-2014, 09:00 AM   #17
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Fyi.
People "say" they pack "light" but in reality average "user" added items to a camper is #1000 +

You may say that silly but I challenge anybody that thinks that to weigh everything that goes in your camp "and truck"

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The point being though, he does have that option. Especially in his use case, being 4 months seasonal at one location, he can always opt to purchase cheap throwaway replacements vs bringing it with him. Leaving things like bikes, firewood, BBQs, etc behind is a heck of a lot easier than asking the wife to lose weight so you're not overloaded.

As long as he's not over (or close) as per the sticker weights + and estimate for hitch, propane, and batteries, the rest is just cargo which can or cannot come with him.

I know people who do 3 month stretches in FL in a condo. They fed-ex a bunch of stuff down before they go. This let's them put the convertible in the cargo trailer vs bringing everything the wife wants and leaving the convertible behind. Same kind of principles can be applied here.
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Old 06-17-2014, 09:03 AM   #18
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The point being though, he does have that option. Especially in his use case, being 4 months seasonal at one location, he can always opt to purchase cheap throwaway replacements vs bringing it with him. Leaving things like bikes, firewood, BBQs, etc behind is a heck of a lot easier than asking the wife to lose weight so you're not overloaded.

As long as he's not over (or close) as per the sticker weights + and estimate for hitch, propane, and batteries, the rest is just cargo which can or cannot come with him.

I know people who do 3 month stretches in FL in a condo. They fed-ex a bunch of stuff down before they go. This let's them put the convertible in the cargo trailer vs bringing everything the wife wants and leaving the convertible behind. Same kind of principles can be applied here.
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Old 06-17-2014, 09:05 AM   #19
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Fyi.
People "say" they pack "light" but in reality average "user" added items to a camper is #1000 +

You may say that silly but I challenge anybody that thinks that to weigh everything that goes in your camp "and truck"

Tools
Leveling boards / chocks
Extension cords
Chairs
Pet food
Bedding / pillows
Clothes
Shoes / boots
Toiletries/ hair dryers /curling irons / hair spray etc etc
Cleaning supplies
Bath Towels / rags
Dishes/plates/cups/silverware / pots / pans / griddles / coffee maker / toaster / dish rags / towels
Bug repellents / sun screen
Food /milk /steaks /pop water beer
Coolers/ ice / liquor
Firewood extra tv ' s / dvd's / Cd's
Stabilizer pads
Wh full of water
Bag boards
Portable grill
Bikes
Passengers
Dogs / cats
Books
Portable radios
Hammock
Portable fans
Games / puzzles
Cooking tri pod
Axe
Generator
Lanterns / lantern gas
Flash lights
Water hose
Sewer hose
WDH hitch and sway items

See what I mean?

Now as herk mentioned "modifications"

Jack stabilizers
Remote power awning
Add on battery / cables
Battery tenders
Remote water filter
Water regulator
Surge guard portable or hardwired
Satellite and receiver
Max air vent covers
Awning hold down poles
Awning lights led or otherwise
Slide out toppers
Step support
Towel dryer

I think the point is made lol!

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This hurt my head just reading this list! LOL
Yep, 1000lbs plus is way easy to get too so OP just figure that number in to be safe than sorry
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Old 06-17-2014, 09:08 AM   #20
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This hurt my head just reading this list! LOL
Yep, 1000lbs plus is way easy to get too so OP just figure that number in to be safe than sorry
Almost had an Aneurysm writing it!

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