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Old 04-25-2018, 03:01 PM   #21
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Ok, so I did some researching, and I found spec sheets on the truck itself and of my receiver hitch. I attached the sheets. My hitch is a commercial grade class 5 hitch, which shows a tongue weight of 2700 lb capacity, On the spec sheet for the truck (2014 Short Box Mega Cab 6.4 Laramie) it shows my payload at 2770. GVWR at 10,000 lbs. My trailer is right at 4000 lbs empty. We usually have around 300-400 lbs loaded inside and on the front rack, so I would say loaded, it's around 4400 lbs. Of course, I would move all that into the bed of the truck and only load the golf cart on the trailer if we hauled it that way, so I'm guessing the trailer weight would sit at around 4800 lbs then with only about 500 lbs in the bed of the truck.
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Old 04-25-2018, 03:05 PM   #22
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Ah, I didn't think about those places! We have about 4 of them right around me that I use regularly for mulch. I'm gonna give them a call and see if they have one. Thanks for the idea

Ependydad, and you are right. There is a LOVES in Waller, but like you said, it's about 45 mins from me. That was actually the closest one I could think of.

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Old 04-25-2018, 03:42 PM   #23
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Holliwood, I'm confused. In your post you said you have a tongue weight capacity of 2700 lbs. That can't be. On my 3500 GMC dually, on a sticker right on my 2.5" receiver hitch it says max 2000 lbs using a WDH. Are you sure of that number on a 2500? Do you have a 2.5" receiver? If I'm misreading your posts, please set me straight. I can't read the chart you posted on my not so smart phone.
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Old 04-25-2018, 04:15 PM   #25
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Yes sir, my hitch is a 2.5''. I was a bit confused too when I bought it. (Just bought this truck on 3/16). I use a adapter sleeve to put my 2'' WDH on. On Curt's sight, their 2.5'' hitch is commercially rated (the attachment I showed) which shows 2700 lb rating. This is a new truck to me, so I'm just going by what these specs say. I'm gonna look under the truck and try to get an exact part# on it, so I know exactly what I'm looking at.




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Holliwood, I'm confused. In your post you said you have a tongue weight capacity of 2700 lbs. That can't be. On my 3500 GMC dually, on a sticker right on my 2.5" receiver hitch it says max 2000 lbs using a WDH. Are you sure of that number on a 2500? Do you have a 2.5" receiver? If I'm misreading your posts, please set me straight. I can't read the chart you posted on my not so smart phone.
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Yes sir, my hitch is a 2.5''. I was a bit confused too when I bought it. (Just bought this truck on 3/16). I use a adapter sleeve to put my 2'' WDH on. On Curt's sight, their 2.5'' hitch is commercially rated (the attachment I showed) which shows 2700 lb rating. This is a new truck to me, so I'm just going by what these specs say. I'm gonna look under the truck and try to get an exact part# on it, so I know exactly what I'm looking at.
if you are using a sleeve you cant claim the 2.5in specs then...

as for payload, what does your door jam sticker say? thats your ACTUAL payload, the spec sheets will always claim higher because its on a base trim truck with no add ons.

whats the trailers GVWR?
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Old 04-25-2018, 05:10 PM   #27
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if you are using a sleeve you cant claim the 2.5in specs then...
Do have anything to backup this statement? Not that I don't believe you, I've just never heard it before and would like to have a real source.
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Do have anything to backup this statement? Not that I don't believe you, I've just never heard it before and would like to have a real source.
yes, look at the stinger rating, just because you have a 2.5in hitch doesnt mean that anything you stick in it can do the claimed rating.


if you are using a sleeve and have a lower rated 2in stinger in it, you are limited to THAT component's weight rating.

edit to clarify, its not the sleeve thats lowering capacity (although one could argue it is lowering the effective capacity of the hitch, how much is anyones guess, im guessing its negligible) its the lower rated 2in shank and whatever ball... your towing is limited to whatever THATS rated to
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Do have anything to backup this statement? Not that I don't believe you, I've just never heard it before and would like to have a real source.
It's stated in Ford's RV trailer and towing guide on page 28. This is the 2016 guide but should still be relevant.

3) 2.5" receiver. If the provided 2.5" to 2.0" adapter is used, this reduces the Max. Trailer Capacity to 12,500 lbs. and the Max.
Tongue Load to 1,250 lbs.


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It's stated in Ford's RV trailer and towing guide on page 28. This is the 2016 guide but should still be relevant.

3) 2.5" receiver. If the provided 2.5" to 2.0" adapter is used, this reduces the Max. Trailer Capacity to 12,500 lbs. and the Max.
Tongue Load to 1,250 lbs.


fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/Ford_Linc_16RV_TTgde_r1_Oct2.pdf
thanks RJC, m at the airport and didnt have my manual handy
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It's stated in Ford's RV trailer and towing guide on page 28. This is the 2016 guide but should still be relevant.

3) 2.5" receiver. If the provided 2.5" to 2.0" adapter is used, this reduces the Max. Trailer Capacity to 12,500 lbs. and the Max.
Tongue Load to 1,250 lbs.


fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/Ford_Linc_16RV_TTgde_r1_Oct2.pdf
Interesting. No such verbiage in my 2016 Chevy Trailer Guide.
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Interesting. No such verbiage in my 2016 Chevy Trailer Guide.
i mean TBH its kinda common sense to a point. you cant have this big bad ass class 5 hitch and then put class 3 equipment in it and expect it to hold its ratings right?
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i mean TBH its kinda common sense to a point. you cant have this big bad ass class 5 hitch and then put class 3 equipment in it and expect it to hold its ratings right?
Well, I would have guessed that the HITCH would stay just as robust as usual.

I would not think putting a 2" WDH shank in the receiver with a sleeve would reduce the HITCH specs. Of course, you are always limited by the weakest link. To say the "weaker" 2" shank reduces the HITCH spec seems a bit odd to me. How does Ford know that your big, bad 2-1/2" shank is good enough? Maybe it isn't.

Or are they smart enough to know that no 2" shanks out there can do more than 12,500/1,250? And how do they know I'm not using a 10,000/1,000 WDH? Now I'm even more limited. If that's so, saying that the HITCH specs are reduced still seems odd to me. I would have stated that you're limited by your shank's specs, not the HITCH specs.

(And I find it difficult to believe that the sleeve has anything to do with it.) But maybe it's all CYA of some kind.

But as I said, nothing similar in my Chevy guide.
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Hmm....that makes sense. I'll have to check the specks on my actual hitch. The payload on my door sticker says 2674 lbs.

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if you are using a sleeve you cant claim the 2.5in specs then...

as for payload, what does your door jam sticker say? thats your ACTUAL payload, the spec sheets will always claim higher because its on a base trim truck with no add ons.

whats the trailers GVWR?
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Well, I would have guessed that the HITCH would stay just as robust as usual.

I would not think putting a 2" WDH shank in the receiver with a sleeve would reduce the HITCH specs. Of course, you are always limited by the weakest link. To say the "weaker" 2" shank reduces the HITCH spec seems a bit odd to me. How does Ford know that your big, bad 2-1/2" shank is good enough? Maybe it isn't.

Or are they smart enough to know that no 2" shanks out there can do more than 12,500/1,250? And how do they know I'm not using a 10,000/1,000 WDH? Now I'm even more limited. If that's so, saying that the HITCH specs are reduced still seems odd to me. I would have stated that you're limited by your shank's specs, not the HITCH specs.

(And I find it difficult to believe that the sleeve has anything to do with it.) But maybe it's all CYA of some kind.

But as I said, nothing similar in my Chevy guide.

the hitch does stay as robust as usual, fords just saying hey if you use a lower rated component you cant claim the hitch was rated at 2500 so it should have worked, you put in a lower rated component and are limited to that.

Im not sure but i dont think ive ever seen a 2in shank rate to more then 12k towing or 1250 TW, could be wrong tho
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Dude if the rack on the trl can handle the weight which it appears it can put the golf cart on and see how it looks if truck sags to much then use w/d bars and enjoy. Before someone calls the weight police or say we are giving rvers a bad rep we would never think of a minivan or car as being over payload if four big guys got out of one. I just took a trip where I was the smallest and lightest of the 4 guys in a Ford Escape ( I weigh 290) plus the bags for the 3 day trip I bet we were close to 1500 pounds payload if not more so don’t tell me that I being dangerous. The op seems intelligent enough to realize if his truck or trl can’t handle it. Finally inserting the sleeve would only reinforce and add strength to the hitch that said what you slide in next might be the weakest link but not due to the sleeve
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Interesting. No such verbiage in my 2016 Chevy Trailer Guide.
They are waiting for a lawsuit then lawyers will put that into play. Makes sense though.... the 2 inch is rated lower.
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Dude if the rack on the trl can handle the weight which it appears it can put the golf cart on and see how it looks if truck sags to much then use w/d bars and enjoy. Before someone calls the weight police or say we are giving rvers a bad rep we would never think of a minivan or car as being over payload if four big guys got out of one. I just took a trip where I was the smallest and lightest of the 4 guys in a Ford Escape ( I weigh 290) plus the bags for the 3 day trip I bet we were close to 1500 pounds payload if not more so don’t tell me that I being dangerous. The op seems intelligent enough to realize if his truck or trl can’t handle it. Finally inserting the sleeve would only reinforce and add strength to the hitch that said what you slide in next might be the weakest link but not due to the sleeve
the comment was made in response to the typical RV garbage of, bought a 3/4 or 1 ton truck im solid on being able to tow it.

in this case, he was not correct and there were many other things to consider.

if you want to overload payload in a truck or van or car, fine thats your deal, but the second you start towing something you better be a little smarter about it
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