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Old 02-08-2016, 02:28 PM   #31
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Yeah.. The under wight part throws me... More like way OVER weight.
Maybe they meant they were tongue-light (as in less than 10%).
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Old 02-08-2016, 02:44 PM   #32
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Biggest problem with suv is the short wheel base and add a 30 plus ft tt and you are asking for trouble. Dont'car what type tow system you have. See this a lot. Later RJD
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Old 02-08-2016, 02:55 PM   #33
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Biggest problem with suv is the short wheel base and add a 30 plus ft tt and you are asking for trouble. Dont'car what type tow system you have. See this a lot. Later RJD

That's what I was thinking. Unless you drive an Excursion or bigger Suburban, the shorter wheel base of SUVs can make it a handful to drive.


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Old 02-09-2016, 11:06 AM   #34
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Biggest problem with suv is the short wheel base and add a 30 plus ft tt and you are asking for trouble. Dont'car what type tow system you have. See this a lot. Later RJD
Are you saying that a longer wheelbase will make up for an improperly setup?

What would you rather see:
a. A properly setup pickup that is over it's weight limits.
b. An improperly setup pickup that is within it's weight limits.
c. A properly setup SUV that is within it's limits.

Of course, I'm not including the obvious option D (a properly setup pickup, within it's limits), because I'm making a point.
But given these 3 choices, I'll take option C, thank you.
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Old 02-09-2016, 11:20 AM   #35
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An improperly setup, or overweight, pickup can also make for a handful to drive.

I pulled a 3000 lbs popup behind a Chrysler minivan for 7 seasons (properly setup and within all ratings). Everyone on the popup forums said I needed an SUV or pickup with a truck frame to handle that much weight. You would not believe how stable the rig was, with a 400 lbs Single Bar WDH, friction sway controller, and Prodigy brake controller. Used about 8000 lbs of my 8300 lbs GCVWR.

Now I'm in our 6th season towing 5200 lbs behind a short wheelbase SUV. Using about 10,500 lbs of my 12,000 lbs GCVWR, with Equal-I-zer WDH kit, and that same Prodigy. Very stable. No sway. No bucking. Tracks well when I need a quick lane change.

Is a longer wheelbase inherently better, all else being equal? Absolutely. But it's just not right to imply that a properly setup SUV somehow is an accident waiting ot happen. That's just false.
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Old 02-09-2016, 11:33 AM   #36
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One thing that I believe to be missing is "certification by the manufacturer" of persons who install and give instruction to customers regarding WD hitches. Most dealerships I am aware of have NO ONE who truly knows solutions to WD hitch problems.
I detest more rules and laws as much as anyone, however if a dealer were required to have a certified person on staff to install and instruct on WD hitches most of these accidents would never happen.
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According to this dealer they can tow anything with anything.

I saw a triple axle Airstream behind a Honda Minivan. Enough said...


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Like this Can-Am RV :: T&C Van towing 34 Airstream
While I do not agree with Can-AM Rv, I do not know of another dealer that will set up a rig and then test it on a track to see how well it does.
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An improperly setup, or overweight, pickup can also make for a handful to drive.

I pulled a 3000 lbs popup behind a Chrysler minivan for 7 seasons (properly setup and within all ratings). Everyone on the popup forums said I needed an SUV or pickup with a truck frame to handle that much weight. You would not believe how stable the rig was, with a 400 lbs Single Bar WDH, friction sway controller, and Prodigy brake controller. Used about 8000 lbs of my 8300 lbs GCVWR.

Now I'm in our 6th season towing 5200 lbs behind a short wheelbase SUV. Using about 10,500 lbs of my 12,000 lbs GCVWR, with Equal-I-zer WDH kit, and that same Prodigy. Very stable. No sway. No bucking. Tracks well when I need a quick lane change.

Is a longer wheelbase inherently better, all else being equal? Absolutely. But it's just not right to imply that a properly setup SUV somehow is an accident waiting ot happen. That's just false.

You are making straw man arguments. The comments were specifically about 30' plus trailers and SUVs. Nobody is talking about pop ups and minivans. The first sentence of your last paragraph is all that needs to be said.


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Now that Mini van and Mercedes slalom stuff is CRAZY!
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