Can (should) I tow this (specs in post)

[zhoenixx]

I ran the math and on paper it looks like I should be fine, but I’m looking for the opinions of the gurus on this forum.

My truck is a 2017 Ram 1500, 5.7L Hemi, and towing package with 3.92 gears. Truck weight is 5400 dry, GVWR is 6900, payload is 1510, tow rating is 10160, and GCWR is 15950.

The toy hauler I am looking at is the XLR Hyperlite 29HFS. Dry weight is 7,282 and tongue weight dry is 1,124.

I will be using an equalizer WD hitch rated at 1,400 / 14,000.

In the back of the toy hauler will be a RZR 900 UTV that weighs 1,300.

Two questions, can I safely tow this combination?

And if so, what will the weight of the RZR do to the tongue weight?

Any input help would be greatly appreciated!!

[Mountndream]

is the 1510 number from specs or from the sticker on the door.

completely empty and assuming that is your actual payload sticker, you have less than 300 lbs to spare. Thats assuming the trailer weighs in correctly as well.

My gut feeling is you are going to be over when real world weights are totaled. ie what payload you actually have from the sticker and what your tongue weight actually weighs. Also, you have no Cargo in the trailer or truck at this point

[zhoenixx]

This is the sticker on my truck, so I take it that my payload is actually 1242?

[jgump]

Looks like you'll have less than 400 lbs left of your CCC left with these numbers and that's dry weight tongue weight (which is not reality). Now add you, wife, dog, kids, camping crap in truck and in trailer plus wdh plus full propane tanks. Looking like you're gonna be way over limits.

[ronheater70]

1,200 lbs of payload available that's pretty dismal. I wonder how in the heck they say you can tow 10K pounds with only 1,200 lbs of payload.. the tongue weight alone on a 10K trailer would have you over your payload..

[Bluepill]

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[thebrakeman]

Toy-haulers are design tongue-heavy unloaded, under the assumption that you will actually be hauling a toy in the back. So, I would assume that factory and dealer options, LP, batteries, etc, plus typical camping gear will add the usual 1000 lbs, plus the 1300 lb vehicle in the back. That total weight (9582) would be distributed to have the 10-15% on the ball. 12.5% = 1198 lbs, which makes your 1400 lbs WDH kit the right choice.


But as has been noted, by the time you consider the weight of the WDH, and whatever you put in the truck, you will be well over your payload capacity.

[jgump]

That looks like the sticker on the TT. Yes? Payload of TT was 1510 I thought

[zhoenixx]

Originally Posted by jgump

That looks like the sticker on the TT. Yes? Payload of TT was 1510 I thought

That sticker is from the truck.

[jgump]

Wow. Very low payload number. Will limit what you can have in TT

[zhoenixx]

Originally Posted by jgump

Wow. Very low payload number. Will limit what you can have in TT

The cargo carrying capacity of the trailer is 2,642 lbs.

[jgump]

Way too much trailer for your truck in my opinion.

[zhoenixx]

Thank you all for your input!

[HangDiver]

Originally Posted by zhoenixx

This is the sticker on my truck, so I take it that my payload is actually 1242?

I normally think of a Ram 1500 with a 5.7L as having a higher payload capacity than that (my Nissan Frontier pickup has a higher payload than that) and it wouldn't surpise me if you're placard payload number is limited by load range "C" OEM tires.

You might check the Gross Axle Weight Rating (GAWR) front & rear incase a higher load rated tire might help you get more out of your truck.

[zhoenixx]

Originally Posted by HangDiver

I normally think of a Ram 1500 with a 5.7L as having a higher payload capacity than that (my Nissan Frontier pickup has a higher payload than that) and it wouldn't surpise me if you're placard payload number is limited by load range "C" OEM tires.

You might check the Gross Axle Weight Rating (GAWR) front & rear incase a higher load rated tire might help you get more out of your truck.

I was surprised it was so low as well. My tires say don't exceed 2900 lbs. Not sure what range that is.

[bikendan]

With a dismal truck payload capacity of only 1242lbs, forget any toyhauler except for absolute smallest ones.

Ram 1500 trucks are infamous for their low payload capacities. The Ecodiesel is even worse.

[rmac04401]

Even the smaller grey wolf toy haulers would have you over payload.

[mj0528]

That's crap that the manufacturer give you tons of "pulling " power but nothing to work with for payload

[zhoenixx]

Originally Posted by mj0528

That's crap that the manufacturer give you tons of "pulling " power but nothing to work with for payload

Yeah... Not too happy about that.

[TheMusikShoppe]

Remember, your "payload" has to include occupants. That makes it not so doable. Although I am certainly no expert, I would make sure that my payload exceeded my needs by at least 40%. However, I'm very conservative.