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05-31-2015, 09:55 PM
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Change to tundra good idea?
I have a 274dbh that comes in at 6400dry pulling with a 2004 f150 with 3.55gears. Latest figuring with family and dogs I am at max weight. I am looking into another TV. Any thoughts on a 2008 tundra crew max?
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05-31-2015, 09:59 PM
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It will pull the trailer fine if it's the 5.7. Your limit factor will be cargo weight- 1350 lbs. but between tongue weight and cargo I am over too.
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05-31-2015, 10:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirateman98
I have a 274dbh that comes in at 6400dry pulling with a 2004 f150 with 3.55gears. Latest figuring with family and dogs I am at max weight. I am looking into another TV. Any thoughts on a 2008 tundra crew max?
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You're not gaining much except for 4 years.
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05-31-2015, 10:03 PM
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That is a small payload. So with a camper shell, 2 80lb dogs and the high hitch weight (906) for the Cherokee tundra is not gonna work I guess
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06-01-2015, 02:23 PM
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Location: Arnold Ca
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tundra as TV....yes indeed
Pirateman98:
I have a 2013 Tundra double cab and am towing a 2006 Rockwood 31' 8329. Dry, it weighs about 6250 and I usually am hauling around 800-1000 lbs. Ive gone to Oregon/Wash,up I5 with no problems and down to LA over the grapevine , again no problems. I love my truck and am going to look into a Rockwood 5er soon. You might want to check with Tundra owners forum, they have some strong options as to how good this truck is.
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06-01-2015, 02:55 PM
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We loved our Tundra ours was a 2012 but the specs are close. We would still have our if the family didn't outgrow it. The Tundra has a bigger rear-end, bigger breaks, and a 5.7 motor. The truck is made in San Antonio, the Engine in Alabama. I will have to say my Tundra was stronger than the other 3 trucks I've owned. I have owned a Dodge, Chevy and Ford. I will gladly take another Tundra when I can get another truck.
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06-01-2015, 03:05 PM
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Figure up your TT weight wet. (For giggles, we will say 7400, but you should go weigh it )
Take 12-15% of that total to calculate tongue weight (7400 * 15% = 1110 lbs tongue weight)
Add 100 pounds for hitch weight (1110 + 100 = 1210 lbs of payload used up)
Now add 2 80 pound dogs (1210 + 160 = 1370 lbs of payload taken up)
Now add yourself, your family... looking at what 1600 lbs payload easy 1800?
Does the sticker on the side of the Tundra say it has 1800 lbs or more for cargo capacity?
If not, the Tundra won't be enough.
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06-01-2015, 03:08 PM
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ARLO
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: N Chili, NY
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I will stick with Ford. My 2014 ecoboost. Tows my 8329 effortlessly and I have NEVER had a major breakdown since 1994 when I switched to Fords. Other than normal maint, nothing breaks on them.
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06-01-2015, 03:24 PM
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rlocicero I have thought about an Ecoboost how is the MPGS in town? How about the towing MPG's
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06-01-2015, 03:43 PM
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You're going to be maxed in payload with most crewcab 1/2 T trucks. Sure some of the reg cab HD 1/2T have high payloads these days but add in luxuries and the big cab and payload gets used up quickly. I think the only crewcab 1/2 T that has enough payload for you is the new alum F150 with HD payload package or possibly the previous gen F150 with HD payload package. That is different than just the towing package and cant be added after it is built.
That being said we LOVED our '10 Tundra Crewmax 5.7 TRD. Towed my 6600# loaded SP295 effortlessly even up 6-7% grades. I could easily pass semi's without any thought. I know plenty who pull a lot more weight than that with the Tundra. Are they over weight? Probably. It is up to the owner to decide what is safe. I would highly recommend Load Range E tires and maybe something like Timbrens or air bags to shore up the rear. The tires will take the squirm out and the suspension helpers will take the bounce out. Neither increase payload but they do increase towing comfort and I would say safety as well. I had Timbrens on my Tundra and would recommend them. They're simple and work!
For us we had to get rid of the Tundra due to space. My family a 100# and 80# dog and all our gear had us cramped and over payload. No chance of that happening with the new TV!
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06-01-2015, 05:38 PM
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ARLO
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: N Chili, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tsmcmillen
rlocicero I have thought about an Ecoboost how is the MPGS in town? How about the towing MPG's
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Around town about 15. Open road 19 to 20.5 And towing 8.8 to 10.5. I would recommend e rated 10 ply tires.
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06-01-2015, 05:45 PM
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Change to tundra good idea?
I love Toyota trucks. Last year, when we traded in the 18 foot TT for Rocky, I knew my 05 Tacoma needed to go (zero issues with Taco). I looked at them all but found a one-year old Tundra and my dealer said it was fine with the ultra-light trailer.
On this trip, I got 12.6 mpg so very happy with that.
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06-01-2015, 06:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rlocicero
Around town about 15. Open road 19 to 20.5 And towing 8.8 to 10.5. I would recommend e rated 10 ply tires.
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Frankly that doesn't sound that good for what the ecoboost is marketed for. My Tundra will do about that.
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06-01-2015, 06:10 PM
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I have an 07 Tundra 5.7 HEMI towing a 2104 Wildcat 31 ft 5th wheel. The trailer is 8800# dry. Loaded I am about 10000#. My Tundra is rated for 13500# towing. Have no problems. Never runs put of power no matter what the grade of the hills. Best truck I have ever had. Have been rv-ing for 44 years and have had a Ford, and a 92 Dodge with a Cummins. I will stay with my Tundra
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06-01-2015, 06:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gjlabree
I have an 07 Tundra 5.7 HEMI towing a 2104 Wildcat 31 ft 5th wheel. The trailer is 8800# dry. Loaded I am about 10000#. My Tundra is rated for 13500# towing. Have no problems. Never runs put of power no matter what the grade of the hills. Best truck I have ever had. Have been rv-ing for 44 years and have had a Ford, and a 92 Dodge with a Cummins. I will stay with my Tundra
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I wasn't aware toyotas have hemi's? Thought that was a dodge/ram thing. Isn't Toyotas 5.7 called I-force ?
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06-01-2015, 06:22 PM
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Check the specs, it is a Hemi putting out 381 HP
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06-01-2015, 06:23 PM
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I tow my 6100 pound loaded trailer with a 2012 F150 Lariat supercrew 5.0 With 3.55 gears. On the flat stuff it tows just fine but put it into a long 7% uphill mountain grade and I'm in 2nd gear at 50mph turning 4k rpm. That's with 5 people in the truck and water tank full loaded for camping.
I'm considering more truck myself but trying to balance that steep grade I'll climb maybe 3 times a year with the added cost and reduced mileage of a super duty or new ecoboost. I can get 12-13mpg towing with my 5.0 and it's paid for. I'd be looking at 9-10 with an ecoboost or super duty.
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06-01-2015, 06:27 PM
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Ford really dropped the ball marketing the Ecoboost as "economy". It should have been marketed as a low rpm torque monster! Let me restate that. Ford marketed it as they needed to to generate sales to the masses. But even Ford knows that's not why this engine is a stand out.
Don't get me wrong, for a 6k pound crew cab 4x4, I'm pleased with my 18.5mpg for the work commute and 11.5mpg over our 6k mile trip towing last summer. It's competitive for mileage, but has no equal in a gas engine for towing under 2k rpm.
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06-01-2015, 08:07 PM
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Change to tundra good idea?
Quote:
Originally Posted by gjlabree
Check the specs, it is a Hemi putting out 381 HP
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Can you show in the Toyota specs where it's a hemi? All I see is that the 5.7 with a dual overhead cam engine that can drink that E85 crap fuel. A hemi would choke n die on that stuff..
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06-01-2015, 08:14 PM
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So I see that there is no truly stated payload for tundras that I can find. I had a guy at work tell me they pull real loose and float all over the road. Anyone have this? Should I just get a newer f150 with the 5.0 and 3.73 gears.
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