??? changing the pin box

[hrlyguy2]

I have the sandpiper 345. And the pin box is destroying my access lorado rails on sharp turns.
like the cover already bought a new rail.Just want to get insight on what to do.
Get a little jerking aswell while towing.Heard guys go with demco.
What options are out there.That won't destroy my rails.
Thanks

[Ford Idaho]

Sounds like your trailer is to low, how level is the trailer when hooked to the truck?
Got a lift kit on the truck?

[hrlyguy2]

No lift kit on the truck .Trailer sits level with about 5" clearance from bed rails.In fact my lifted truck had almost 8" of bed cleance

[OldCoot]

Looks like about the only option is a lift kit on the trailer.

[Dave_Monica]

Are the camper axles mounted on the top or bottom of the leaf springs? Are there another set of mounting holes on the spring hangers?

Dave

[hrlyguy2]

The dealer wanted to do a lift kit on it when I had this lifted truck
And said wouldn't recommend flipping axles
I had 8" of clearance. Not a issue.The new body style is that different?

[Dave_Monica]

Originally Posted by hrlyguy2

The dealer wanted to do a lift kit on it when I had this lifted truck
And said wouldn't recommend flipping axles
I had 8" of clearance. Not a issue.The new body style is that different?

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I believe that most (if not all) 5ers now have the axle tubes mounted to the bottom of the leaf springs because of the height of the newer trucks.

Dave

[Ford Idaho]

Originally Posted by hrlyguy2

The dealer wanted to do a lift kit on it when I had this lifted truck
And said wouldn't recommend flipping axles
I had 8" of clearance. Not a issue.The new body style is that different?

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Man did that trailer lift the frontend of that truck or what?
I can see why you have a dually now.

I have to ask, why the dealer advised against flipping the axles?

[hrlyguy2]

Originally Posted by Dave_Monica

Are the camper axles mounted on the top or bottom of the leaf springs? Are there another set of mounting holes on the spring hangers?

Dave

Springs are on top.Not sure about extra holes
cant tell with all this snow crap we keep getting hit with

[hrlyguy2]

Originally Posted by Ford Idaho

Man did that trailer lift the frontend of that truck or what?
I can see why you have a dually now.

I have to ask, why the dealer advised against flipping the axles?

First day we picked it up at the dealer.And it was like 50mph cross winds
Dealer told me to get air bags .And the wife packs the whole house into it so I just got a dually.To be on the safe side
Cant remember what the dealer said exactly on flipping axles wearing something out i think but to do the lift

[dsrace]

unless they were worried about the spring perches not being strong enough for the addition leverage I don't see why not!?!

[onetonford]

Most axles have a bow to them for toe in if you flip axles you have to cut off the perches and weld on other side of the tubes so that they are with the bow up in the center for proper toe in otherwise tires will wear on the inside rather quickly due to toe out because with the weight they tend to run on the inside thread with improper toe in.

[dsrace]

Originally Posted by onetonford

Most axles have a bow to them for toe in if you flip axles you have to cut off the perches and weld on other side of the tubes so that they are with the bow up in the center for proper toe in otherwise tires will wear on the inside rather quickly due to toe out because with the weight they tend to run on the inside thread with improper toe in.

this is true but what i have done and would do again is just buy another set and weld them on the axles then drop them under the leaf springs. a lot simpler and you don't risk cutting to deep into the axle and weakening it.

[hrlyguy2]

Originally Posted by onetonford

Most axles have a bow to them for toe in if you flip axles you have to cut off the perches and weld on other side of the tubes so that they are with the bow up in the center for proper toe in otherwise tires will wear on the inside rather quickly due to toe out because with the weight they tend to run on the inside thread with improper toe in.

That's what they kind of said .After reading that.I remember

I was thinking of moving the pin box down and see if that will help.

[Ford Idaho]

Originally Posted by hrlyguy2

That's what they kind of said .After reading that.I remember

I was thinking of moving the pin box down and see if that will help.

I would think about a two inch lift for the trailer as well as dropping the hitch.

[18CrewDually]

I'm pretty sure if you get the trailer axle alignment kit it lifts the trailer almost 2 inches. It's an easy bolt on kit.

http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/r...nment-kits.htm

[hrlyguy2]

Originally Posted by 05CrewDually

I'm pretty sure if you get the trailer axle alignment kit it lifts the trailer almost 2 inches. It's an easy bolt on kit.

Trailer Axle Alignment Kits - Less Tire Wear - PPL Motor Homes

Know anyone that used this

[OldCoot]

Originally Posted by onetonford

Most axles have a bow to them for toe in if you flip axles you have to cut off the perches and weld on other side of the tubes so that they are with the bow up in the center for proper toe in otherwise tires will wear on the inside rather quickly due to toe out because with the weight they tend to run on the inside thread with improper toe in.

Two things, 1, the axles have a bow in them for camber, not toe in/out. 2, You don't flip the axles, simply cut the spring brackets off the bottom of the axles and re-weld to the top.

[18CrewDually]

Originally Posted by OldCoot

Two things, 1, the axles have a bow in them for camber, not toe in/out. 2, You don't flip the axles, simply cut the spring brackets off the bottom of the axles and re-weld to the top.

Two things: 1. Toe is also factored in a trailer alignment 2. There is no need to cut off the old perches, simply weld on new ones on top of the axle tubes. The u-bolts will simply go right along the old perch.

[18CrewDually]

Originally Posted by hrlyguy2

Know anyone that used this

I have seen people on forums use the kit but me personally have not. The mounts appear noble enough and is something I'm considering for my slightly out of alignment 5er.