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Old 09-30-2015, 12:44 PM   #41
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2500 hd

I love my 2009 2500 hd .in looking into the 2015 models they can pull a trailer rated at 14500 lbs. I run back and forth to florida from Pittsburgh pa. I have the 6.0 with 4:10 rears, it pulls the appalacian mountains in wv without slowing down a heartbeat.
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:56 PM   #42
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I have a 2500 with 5.7l hemi. It tows my 6000lb bumper pull just fine and even though its rated for 8500lbs I wouldn't go over 7000lbs partially because with the mega cab and 6.5 foot bed the truck is 6300lbs by itself and then I add 4 people, bikes, kayaks, firewood, cast iron cookwear and all the other food and gear needed maintain my rep as a chronic over packer. Stability wise you would probably be fine with 2500 but the gas engine is going to be working hard to move the weight your talking about especially if climbing is involved. Just my opinion.
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:58 PM   #43
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I'm a recent convert to diesels. Won't go back.


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Old 09-30-2015, 01:48 PM   #44
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Rumor mill is Ford is launching a V8 Ecoboost with the 2017 or 2018 mustang, raptor, and SD. Imagine 450hp and 500lbs of torque from 2400-5800 rpm. If done properly, it could change the face of the Gas HD segment and finally bridge the gap between too much and not quite enough...
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Old 09-30-2015, 02:08 PM   #45
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Rumor mill is Ford is launching a V8 Ecoboost with the 2017 or 2018 mustang, raptor, and SD. Imagine 450hp and 500lbs of torque from 2400-5800 rpm. If done properly, it could change the face of the Gas HD segment and finally bridge the gap between too much and not enough...
Engines for the 2017 SuperDuty have already been announced and there isn't a Ecco Boost in the line up. We could be doing pre orders on 2017 in 7 or 8 months if like this 2016.
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Old 09-30-2015, 03:24 PM   #46
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I don't know if this site will help you but they do testing of quite a few vehicles. http://www.TFLtruck.com
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Old 09-30-2015, 03:27 PM   #47
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Sure got derailed here poor guy was asking about gas not diesel. Later RJD
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Old 09-30-2015, 03:33 PM   #48
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I will probably recoup about half the price of diesel when I sell the truck. I figure the rest is wash except my gin will towing is worth the other half. I didn't get into RVing to recoup anything. If I did I would bought tent and Prius LOL
I did not get into RVing either to recoup just use common sense as to what works and cost effective. Later RJD
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Sure got derailed here poor guy was asking about gas not diesel. Later RJD

True, but he might want to consider the benefits.


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Old 09-30-2015, 04:18 PM   #50
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True, but he might want to consider the benefits.


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But that is not was the title of the thread is. Stick to the question. If he wanted to know he would have asked. Kind of like other forums I've been on gets derailed cause someone always thinks things are better. One person starts out asking question about electric locos and the next thing you got folks saying how much better battery operations. Later RJD
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Old 09-30-2015, 05:28 PM   #51
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I had a 2011 Chevy Corvette with 32 miles on it driving home from the dealer.
When I hit that 70-75 mph on the freeway it had that same vibration. After numerous trips to the dealer and even the regional service mgr ackknowledge there was a problem, it never got fixed. New tires and 3 sets of new wheels never corrected the problem. I suffered for 3 year and 16k miles until I sold it.
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Old 09-30-2015, 05:43 PM   #52
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The difference in what you get gas mileage with the diesel vs the gas engine when towing will make of the difference in price
I purchased a '12 GMC Serra duramax new, it has 20,000 miles on it and coming back from PA (not towing) I got an over all average of 22.8 mpg, there were sections I check it and was getting upwards to 26.8 mpg. towing is normally 12-13. Love that truck! And not 1 warranty problem unlike the Ford 6.0 that I traded in - engine had 3 blown head gaskets, and always had injector problems. Stay away from Ford 6.0.
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Old 09-30-2015, 06:24 PM   #53
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Owned a Chevy 2500 gas and traded it in for two reasons. The gas mileage loaded or empty was awful... 6-8 mph towing and 10 to 12 empty. Got an F250 Diesel and now get 17-20 empty on trips and 14-15 towing. But more importantly, the difference in towing is night and day and much or stable in terms of suspension and braking.
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Old 09-30-2015, 06:37 PM   #54
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Don't know much about GM or Ram, but I've got a Crusader 320 rlt that is similar in size and I pull it with a Ford F350 Super Duty, 6.8L V10 gasser. Does the towing job very well. Regardless of what you pick, don't expect much in the way of mileage.
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Old 09-30-2015, 06:38 PM   #55
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I've had two different diesel vehicles and two different V-10 gassers all pulling campers in my 20+ years. While the V-10's did OK pulling they did not compare to the diesels, especially on hills or in the mountains. Mileage between the gassers and diesels isn't even in the same ballpark. If you can afford the diesel and will be pulling a lot, it is worth it.
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Old 09-30-2015, 06:47 PM   #56
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Well I tried to buy a new 2015 RAM 2500 Diesel the cost was just out of reach for me.
If I choose to down size to a Chevy 2500 big V8 gas or a Ram 2500 big V8 gas, will wither of these be capable of towing my 10,000lb dry/12000lb GVW?
The trailer will be a 5th wheel.

The Diesel for around $50k but I can get the big V8 for $44K. Help!
I think this was the question. Don't see where diesels comes into play here. Later RJD
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Old 09-30-2015, 07:02 PM   #57
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But that is not was the title of the thread is. Stick to the question. If he wanted to know he would have asked. Kind of like other forums I've been on gets derailed cause someone always thinks things are better. One person starts out asking question about electric locos and the next thing you got folks saying how much better battery operations. Later RJD

Actually in post #16 he talks about negotiating again for the diesel.


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Old 09-30-2015, 09:30 PM   #58
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Regarding your truck decision

I have a 2015 Silverado 1500 Max trailer pack truck and pulled a 12000 lb rated toy hauler (actual trailer weight 11000lbs.) You mentioned limited trailer pulling
which is pretty much what I do, did one trip of about 1000 miles round and plenty under 200 miles
5.3 pulled it well fuel economy towing around 8, fuel economy solo higher than 18/23 works well for my needs smoother riding also
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Old 09-30-2015, 09:53 PM   #59
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I have had 454 GMC dually and Chev gas

I now have diesel. The power is crazy better than gas. My gas mileage is 2 1/2 miles per gallon better with diesel.
That's saves lots of money on our budget. The up charge was $7,400 getting diesel. In my humble option well worth it especially when considering the longevity of Diesel engines.
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Can't compare an older rat and it's drrivetrain to the modern gas plants any more than you can compare a 12V cummins to a 6.7.
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