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08-25-2016, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Tacky
FYI for followers of this thread. The issue that bridgekev is having, is;
1) very unusual, very few vehicles affected by this issue.
2) results in abs light coming on, with diagnostic trouble codes stored for wheel speed sensors.
3) being actively investigated by GM engineering.
This is not an issue of message stating trailer disconnected, or check trailer wiring, those are usually due to a trailer brake wiring issue.
It is hoped a solution will be available soon.
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I beg to differ. OP said:
"I got stuck on my way back from the Grand Canyon with ABS, Stabilitrak lights and a trailer brake failure warning. Took it in for warranty repair six times but have the same problem on every trip. GM refused to repurchase the truck they can't fix. GM customer service is no help."
The trailer brake failure warning is what is pointing most of us to thinking there's an intermittent problem with his trailer wiring; potentially something feeding battery current back into his brake controller.
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08-25-2016, 08:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rockfordroo
I beg to differ. OP said:
"I got stuck on my way back from the Grand Canyon with ABS, Stabilitrak lights and a trailer brake failure warning. Took it in for warranty repair six times but have the same problem on every trip. GM refused to repurchase the truck they can't fix. GM customer service is no help."
The trailer brake failure warning is what is pointing most of us to thinking there's an intermittent problem with his trailer wiring; potentially something feeding battery current back into his brake controller.
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When there is an abs code on gm vehicles, it disables the trailer brake system on them as well. I dont know why, but ive had to clear both systems codes after replacing damaged hubs and abs sensors.
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08-25-2016, 09:16 AM
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Bridgekev, Just a thought. Since you don't have another TT to pull, I would try to disconnect the trailer brake wire from the trailer plug and pull you trailer again. By doing this you would still have all the TT lights still working. Just something else you could eliminate as the cause on you own.
P.S. Sure hope you can get this solved, as I too own a Daramax.
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08-25-2016, 09:46 AM
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I made an appointment at a Forest river dealer to look over all the wiring. They might see something the Chevy dealer didn't. The trailer brakes don't always go out when the abs trips, but more often than not I get both warnings. Brake light comes on when trailer brakes stop working.
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08-26-2016, 01:10 AM
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Sounds good. We can Maybe eliminate something here. I hope we get you square soon. To be fair it took over a month to find the faulty sensor causing my AC not to work because it was an item that generally doesn't fail. Patience and hopefully between gm, trailer dealership, and these forums we can get you fixed up sooner than later.
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08-26-2016, 05:48 AM
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Another thread with a similar issue that concluded already here (Sorry if this was already brought up, I looked but did not see it.) Reading that thread it may make sense to have someone watch the dash while you go under and wiggle all the brake wires wherever they go through any metal brackets or into the trailer frame. Might be a good place to look for an intermittent short.
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08-27-2016, 11:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rockfordroo
I beg to differ. OP said:
"I got stuck on my way back from the Grand Canyon with ABS, Stabilitrak lights and a trailer brake failure warning. Took it in for warranty repair six times but have the same problem on every trip. GM refused to repurchase the truck they can't fix. GM customer service is no help."
The trailer brake failure warning is what is pointing most of us to thinking there's an intermittent problem with his trailer wiring; potentially something feeding battery current back into his brake controller.
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There are a variety of messages you nay receive. Trailer disconnected or check trailer wiring messages probably are most common, and usually are due to a poor connection in the trailer brake wiring.
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08-27-2016, 02:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tacky
There are a variety of messages you nay receive. Trailer disconnected or check trailer wiring messages probably are most common, and usually are due to a poor connection in the trailer brake wiring.
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Just to be clear, per Tacky, who is a GM service person, said this has nothing to do with the "Check Trailer Wiring" issue. That's bad enough, but apparently the issue from the OP is worse. I'm not trying to shut down the conversation, just trying to keep on track.
I have the Check Trailer Wiring issue and asked Tacky if it was the same. He said it is not.
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08-27-2016, 02:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tacky
There are a variety of messages you nay receive. Trailer disconnected or check trailer wiring messages probably are most common, and usually are due to a poor connection in the trailer brake wiring.
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Just to be clear, per Tacky, who is a GM service person, said this has nothing to do with the "Check Trailer Wiring" issue. That's bad enough, but apparently the issue from the OP is worse. I'm not trying to shut down the conversation, just trying to keep on track.
I have the Check Trailer Wiring issue and asked Tacky if it was the same. He said it is not.
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09-01-2016, 12:29 PM
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Update
For those facing the same issue and following the thread, I took the trailer to a Forest River dealer to have the wiring inspected. They didn't find any problems. They started at the connector and worked their way back, including the trailer brake wiring. The labor wasn't covered by the warranty because they didn't find any problems.
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09-01-2016, 01:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bridgekev
For those facing the same issue and following the thread, I took the trailer to a Forest River dealer to have the wiring inspected. They didn't find any problems. They started at the connector and worked their way back, including the trailer brake wiring. The labor wasn't covered by the warranty because they didn't find any problems.
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Still need to try with another trailer. I still think it is with the trailer, not the truck.
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09-01-2016, 01:38 PM
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I'm not going to get snarky as you are entitled to your opinion, but if you review the thread, or try a google search, you'll see that more than a few Chevy owners are having the same issue with a variety of trailers. In a sense I agree that it's the trailer, in that pulling it exposes the truck malfunction.
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09-01-2016, 02:10 PM
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Did you ever try pulling the trailer (safely) without the electrical connected?
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09-01-2016, 02:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bridgekev
I'm not going to get snarky as you are entitled to your opinion, but if you review the thread, or try a google search, you'll see that more than a few Chevy owners are having the same issue with a variety of trailers. In a sense I agree that it's the trailer, in that pulling it exposes the truck malfunction.
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If you don't try another trailer you will never convince your dealer, it is not your truck. But you don't have to listen to anyone. Especially me.
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09-01-2016, 02:24 PM
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Had similar problem with my 2015. Found that an after market plug mounted on sidewall of truck was causing the problem. Removed it and used the plug in the bumper which was original equipment. Everything now works. Purchased a new high quality plug for sidewall mount and it works as well. Might give that a try. Won't cost you anything but a few minutes of your time to test.
Good luck.
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09-01-2016, 02:29 PM
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Intermittent problems are always the toughest to solve. Keep us informed of your progress, please.
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2012 Roo19 - hybrid (2012-2015)
2016 Mini Lite 2503S - tt (2015 - ???)
2011 Traverse LT, 3.6L, FWD
2009 Silverado 1500 Ext Cab, 5.3L, 4x4, 3.73
2016 Silverado 2500HD Dbl Cab, 6.0L 4x4, 4.10
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09-01-2016, 02:58 PM
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It is definitely due to something made in China!
Bruce
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09-02-2016, 07:08 AM
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I am on a trip right now with my 2016 2500. I have now twice gotten the trailer brake warning and service stabilitrac. The dealer has replaced the truck trailer plug due to water in it. I have temporary "solved" the issue by disconnecting the trailer plug and pulling the emergency brake on the trailer a couple of times. Reconnect and drive 20 yards, and everything returns to normal.
When I get home, the trailer goes to the dealer.
Mark
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09-02-2016, 08:40 AM
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Mark,
What kind of trailer are you pulling?
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09-02-2016, 09:16 AM
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2016 stealth 2515.
I am having the dealer pull the codes off the truck today. The codes that only the dealer can get. Just to make sure.
Problem with these new trucks is any minor electric glitch and they freak out, and shut down.
Thing is I am in Wisconsin, on my way home to California. So this will keep me awake at least. Can't have a dull vacation.
Mark
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