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Old 03-05-2012, 08:00 AM   #1
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Chips/Tuners?

Does anyone have any expirience with chipping their TV? Specifically a gas Ford??
I've been looking at the Bully Dog and Super Chips.
I have a 2009 Expedition with the 5.4L and tow package.
My specific concern is down shifting. I'd like to be able to change the shift points.

If anyone has any input with regards to tuners on F150, Expeditions with this drive train, it would be appreciated.
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:33 AM   #2
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I would check into the one of the new Super Chips tuners. I know for Dodges you can modify shift points etc. The best place to go for this kind of info would be on one of the many Ford forums like Ford Truck Enthusiasts, 1948-2011 Ford F150, Super Duty & SUV owners community and information source. Covers F100, F-150, F250, Bronco, Ranger, Explorer, Expedition, Lighting, Escape and More.
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:44 AM   #3
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I have an Edge Tuner on my F150. I think it was around $260 5 years ago if I remember correctly. I like it for the gauges more than anything else. It has 4 settings; stock, stock with better transmission shifting, tow mode and performance mode. I leave mine in towing mode. You can also show 4 different values at a time. I have mine set to show instant MPG, average MPG, engine coolant temp and transmission temp. I think it does help some with power and shifting, but it won't make any truck a race car.
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Along with a lot of people on the FTE website I will also recommend an SCT tuner from 5 Star Tuning. Not one ounce of negative feedback from this company and you can call their phone number and talk to the owner directly and ask any questions. I would stay away from canned tunes like Bully Dog. The owner of 5 Star creates custom tunes to cater to your needs and he has developed them on his own experience with Ford engines. I ordered mine with 3 87 octane tunes, tow, economy, and performance. While you will not see huge jumps in power like you would tuning a diesel engine, the tuner has worked pretty well for me. None of the tunes really did much for fuel economy except a marginal increase running empty with the economy tune, but even the 1-2 mpg increase on my Ford V10 was welcomed. I mostly got it for the tow tune which changed my shift patterns and helped wake up my engine when it performs under a load.
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Here's what I learned when I had a SuperChips on my 5.4L (F-250). Any HP or torque increase was negligible. The changes to the shift points for the tranny worked very well on acceleration, but once I was up to speed, it did very little to change (ease or prevent) the downshifting. I even put 4.30 gears in mine, and it still downshifted on most hills and even some highway overpasses. So if you're looking at the tuner to help you there, I don't think you will succeed. I found it best when in an area where the tranny was hunting a lot (downshifting), just lock out overdrive (mine only had that...not tow/haul) and work with the hills.

For the record, even when I went to my '08 with the 6.4L, it did more hunting than I expected. Granted I had a much bigger trailer then, but I still expected a bit more. So far, the new 6.7L is the best yet. That thing is just stupid power and torque. I am quite pleased with it.
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:35 AM   #6
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Wow! That's a lot of answers, really fast! Thanks folks. I'll look at the Ford forum and place a couple calls.
A little bit more of the story, I bought the Expedition specifically for towing the camper and as my business vehicle. My company pays about 90% of all my expenses associated with the vehicle. They also have some bizzar policies regarding pick up trucks, but allow SUV's

So, I'm committed to the Expedition and trying to make it a better TV. We generally do 1 2000 mile trip per year and the rest of our trips stay with-in 500 miles. My specific problem with shifting is when entering the highway, I have plenty of tourqe and would like to prevent it from dropping a gear on acceleration or make it upshift from that gear a little quicker....


Thanks again.
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Here's what I learned when I had a SuperChips on my 5.4L (F-250). Any HP or torque increase was negligible. The changes to the shift points for the tranny worked very well on acceleration, but once I was up to speed, it did very little to change (ease or prevent) the downshifting..
My experience exactly on a 5.4L F150. Some very modest benefit on transmission action but nothing to notice on power. IMO largely a waste of money. I'll never do it again.
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