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Old 11-04-2014, 03:27 PM   #21
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I've tried different hitch heights and forward and back positions. The 5er sits as close to level as I can get it. I have a 03 2500hd with the b&w companion hitch. With the 8286ws axles I'm not sure if shocks will work. OldCoot is an expert on here so he might know more about them. Just not sure if I want to keep putting money into the truck. It has been used pulling a gooseneck with its previous owner so the truck itself might be wore out. I've pulled with 2 other trucks and no chucking. One being an 05 2500hd and the other a 06 dodge 2500 both diesels though mine is a gasser.
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Old 11-04-2014, 04:37 PM   #22
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I've tried different hitch heights and forward and back positions. The 5er sits as close to level as I can get it. I have a 03 2500hd with the b&w companion hitch. With the 8286ws axles I'm not sure if shocks will work. OldCoot is an expert on here so he might know more about them. Just not sure if I want to keep putting money into the truck. It has been used pulling a gooseneck with its previous owner so the truck itself might be wore out. I've pulled with 2 other trucks and no chucking. One being an 05 2500hd and the other a 06 dodge 2500 both diesels though mine is a gasser.
Trailers are the only highway vehicles with suspension that don't use shocks to control suspension bounce. Putting shocks on mine stopped the chucking on our rig, but supposedly "limpert" says they don't work. I guess TOWTA and I don't know what we experienced. I really don't recall "limpert" having driven my rig before and after, but with the CRS I have, I could be mistaken.
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Old 11-04-2014, 04:52 PM   #23
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I agree the shock would help but LT Truck tires and D trailer tire stiffen up the rig enough for me to avoid the expense of driving to SC and have OC mod the shocks...lol
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Old 11-04-2014, 04:52 PM   #24
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Lol I've read your post on your shocks and I don't have the same frame work as you. I also don't believe pin weight is the problem since I've pulled it with other TV.
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Old 11-04-2014, 05:44 PM   #25
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Chucking? What exactly is that? Maybe I am the only one that is unclear as to what exactly chucking is. I have experienced a nasty bounce as the five's pin weight comes down on the truck often related to bridges or concrete roads that have heaved up or have expansion joints? Can someone define chucking?
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Old 11-04-2014, 05:47 PM   #26
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Lol I've read your post on your shocks and I don't have the same frame work as you. I also don't believe pin weight is the problem since I've pulled it with other TV.

I would bet a dollar to a donut that the configuration is the same.
Takes about a week and $400 to put them on. I have drawings if you have access to a welder (for brackets) and a metal cutting band saw (I don't use cutting torches on anything I fabricate). There is no welding on the trailer frame either.
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Old 11-04-2014, 05:56 PM   #27
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I agree the shock would help but LT Truck tires and D trailer tire stiffen up the rig enough for me to avoid the expense of driving to SC and have OC mod the shocks...lol
Concord, NORTH Carolina.
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Old 11-04-2014, 06:03 PM   #28
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Chucking Is you trailer Banging forward on stops banking backwards on a take off and bouncing down the highway on your hitch. If I can leave a glass coffee pot on the counter and my storage cabinets do not have cans fall out or when you open your refer when you after setting it up your trailer is not the problem. Look at your tow vehicle. It's the pin noise that you here and feel as the pin either moves back and forth or up and down. Now saying that if I make a turn that says 45 mph and I'm going 60 mph things will slide around but not bounce which is chucking to me. But I also drive a F250 that can carry double that weight. No air bags required I do not squat at all the rear springs do not drop even an inch. That is chucking to me. Maybe I'm wrong but I have no problem all units will have a little no matter what anyone says. Try highway 95 in SC I bounce all over the place the worst highway in the USA, so I expect it there.
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Old 11-04-2014, 06:31 PM   #29
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I had "chucking" on my brand new hitch & 5th wheel in Feb 2012from the minute I picked it up from the dealer and everything was 'brand new'. I found the clunking noise was from the hitch itself had clearance between the hitch legs and the rails in the bed. Eliminated that clearance by making 0.075" thick steel shims and installing them between the rails and the legs. The 'chucking' was still there but the 'take off and stopping' noise was gone. In my opinion the chucking or dolphining is caused by the trailer suspension bouncing and rocking forward on the hitch pin. I eliminated that by installing Monroe SensaMatic shocks on all 4 wheels of the trailer. Now, it follows the contour of the road and doesn't continue the chucking. If the road has one swale in it, the trailer goes over the swale and does not telegraph or continue bouncing. After installing the shocks on the trailer, I can say that this 5er is the "sweetest" towing trailer I've ever owned, bar none and I've been towing rv trailers since '75 and racecar trailers since '64.
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Old 11-04-2014, 08:02 PM   #30
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old coot is correct, add shocks to the camper axles! if you want a good example take the shocks off your truck and go for a drive down the interstate at 70+ mph and you see exactly what they are doing for your ride!! i experienced this with my new toy hauler using a reece 16k hitch. that hitch was junk, i hung it off the pin by hand and couldn't believe the slop in the hitch. i called them and they said it has to be there to get the side to side motion. i not only added the dexter ez flex system but shocks to all 4 wheels at the same time. i also at the same time changed out the hitch to one of these Air Ride Hitch the difference was and is incredible compared to before!! wouldn't go back personally and now with this hitch when you take off ( with the forward and aft absorption) you can't feel the fiver behind the truck.
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