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Old 06-19-2012, 01:10 PM   #11
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There are body builders and upfitters that are licensed to do this. The VIN number also has to be change sometimes depending on if you change the class of truck.
If you don't mind I for one would like to see documentation on being able to change a vehicles weight rating.
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:11 PM   #12
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Source the article and I will post it to the FAQ section.
Lou I will get you the source when I get back to work today.
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:35 PM   #13
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There are body builders and upfitters that are licensed to do this. The VIN number also has to be change sometimes depending on if you change the class of truck.
Gary,

My friend, I have to tell ya, this is a new one on me. I am especially interested in how you change the VIN number since the vehicle's title is VIN number driven in most (if not all) states.

I am sure with enough money you could jack up the CB antenna and drive a new truck under it, but I doubt that anything short of that is in the scope of most of the towing public.

It certainly would be cheaper than an upfitter replacing the truck's frame and both axles.

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Old 06-19-2012, 01:44 PM   #14
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Lou, I'm at work so don't have a lot of time to research but here is a little article about it and it is mainly how Ford does it. Ford have people that do this for a living. I didn't say it would be cheap or easy but if a person was only needing 500-1000# then it might be cheaper than buying a new truck.

Re-rating GVWR: Why and How it's Done - Article - Work Truck
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:52 PM   #15
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I learn something new every day.

The fact that manufacturers are even willing to do this amazes me.
The profit must be huge and the cost exceeding buying a new vehicle.
The tax and registration savings mentioned in the article seems to drive the decision to do it.

What summed it up for me was "Chew also noted that upfitters make changes that affect the GVWR. "Sometimes upfitters will re-rate a vehicle, but when they do that, they're on their own as far as vehicle sign-off and certification is concerned. Most of our fleet customers want the vehicle to be VINed and certified by Ford to meet the safety standards that apply to the chassis when it leaves our plant. The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) has a Web site that covers all the requirements." (Visit www.fmcsa.dot.gov.)"

Once re-VIN'ed it would also need to be re-titled.
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Old 06-19-2012, 02:20 PM   #16
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on a side note, vins are recycled in texas, and if you do not register a vehicle for a period (5 yrs in my case) and you cannot provide documents of previous registration, you have to get a bond for the vehicle, and it will be assigned a NEW vin and must be retitled.....

i went through this with a classic car that was passed down the family and then i decided to restore it.....what a pain!! needless to say i just went out and found another with proper paperwork to rebuild! lol....

i realize this is not really directly related to the original post, but it just shows that getting a new vin for a vehicle is pretty common (so i was told by the DMV)....at least here in texas...
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Old 06-19-2012, 02:58 PM   #17
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I know when I build trailers here at work, I call the courthouse and they send an official here to inspect the trailer and ask me how much it is rated to haul and I get a brand new VIN number in the mail in a couple of days.

If a person has a 3/4 ton truck and all they need is a SRW 1 ton then we are not talking much $ at all. Just have to get the right person that can sign off on it.
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:37 PM   #18
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I have a real issue with this. I would like to hear from a manufacturer before I sign off on a "magic wand" wave GVWR upgrade because some upfitter says it is OK.

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In order to make a srw 1 ton out of a 3/4 ton you would have to replace front and rear axles to a Dana 60 series or equivalent.
But that may not raise your tow rating as much as an Allison and 8.1 or diesel for a late model Chevy.
The only difference in my truck "3/4 ton" from a 14,000 lb tow rating to a 21,000 lb tow rating "3/4 ton" is engine and trans.
12,000 dollar difference as well.
Not worth it imo
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Maybe I was lied to but when I was looking at Rams I was told the only difference between the 3/4 ton and the one ton single wheel was the one ton has an extra leaf,all the drive train is the same.This was the dealer telling me this,and like I said maybe he was just telling me this because he had no one tons in stock.
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