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Old 04-29-2014, 08:59 PM   #51
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Yea that's not a whole lot left for cargo in the truck. *Assuming* the trailer's fully loaded correct?
That is correct. Believe me that sooner rather than later; it will be.
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Old 04-29-2014, 10:46 PM   #52
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I notice the dry weight comments but is yellow sticker dry weight a good number to go off of? If not, what sticker am I supposed to look at for weights (aside from going to a scale once I get it)?
Forest River dry weight per the yellow sticker is as it left the factory (assuming full propane tanks even though they ship them empty), but no battery. If it was optioned with no tanks, then they will not be included in the dry weight.
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We're pulling a Roo 23SS with a 2011 F-150 Eco SuperCrew with the 3.55 rear end and it has been great. The only tips I can give you when optioning the truck is to definitely get the rear-view camera and get LT tires. The P rated tires that came on my truck were great for everyday driving but sucked when towing. The LTs are a HUGE difference.
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Old 04-30-2014, 12:19 AM   #54
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We're pulling a Roo 23SS with a 2011 F-150 Eco SuperCrew with the 3.55 rear end and it has been great. The only tips I can give you when optioning the truck is to definitely get the rear-view camera and get LT tires. The P rated tires that came on my truck were great for everyday driving but sucked when towing. The LTs are a HUGE difference.
Do you have the standard tow package? Also, just curious, what is the GVWR on the 23ss? I'm assuming it's similar to the 231kss - ~6500 lbs?
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Looking at an F150 ecoboost xlt 4x4 for a TV and came across one that has the 7350 pkg, 3.55 electronic slip with tow pkg, int. brake controller. The GVWR is 7350, but payload is only 1212 on it. We're looking at getting a Roo 19 so I'm confident this truck will handle it fine, but the payload seems kind of low for this vehicle. What do you guys think?
Going back to original post, those figures seem a bit off for a truck with a 7350 lb. GVWR. That means the truck was 6138 lbs. as it came off the assembly line ?? For an F150 ?? Granted, I have a earlier model F150, but the certificate of origin indicated the truck weight at 5236 lbs. With a GVWR of 7200, that indicates a payload of almost 2000 lbs.

To be realistic with my numbers, depending on how much gas is in the tank, my "real life everyday number" is between 5900 and 6000 lbs. That includes dealer installed running boards, a bed liner, TracRac railes, a Yakima bike rack, my personal items, fuel, and a small toolbox and other items in the bed. Still haven't figured how that figure grows so quickly, but my weight is a big percentage of the gain....close to 200 lbs. Using that "realistic" payload figure of 1200 lbs., after adding a 700 lb. tongue weight, the missus and dog, and camping gear and generator to the bed, I am still under my GVWR by 100 lbs. or so. The truck travels well with that weight.

I think the best thing for thestrangbrew to do is to load up the family and expected camping gear in the truck and head to some scales. That will give a true weight and additional payload that can be added, ie a trailer tongue.
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Here's my setup just before hitching up for a long trip. Think I'll be OK with my 1100 pound tongue weight

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Seems like your wheelbarrow will be in the way. Do you have a hitch extension?
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Going back to original post, those figures seem a bit off for a truck with a 7350 lb. GVWR. That means the truck was 7229 lbs. as it came off the assembly line ?? For an F150 ?? Granted, I have a earlier model F150, but the certificate of origin indicated the truck weight at 5236 lbs. With a GVWR of 7200, that indicates a payload of almost 2000 lbs.

To be realistic with my numbers, depending on how much gas is in the tank, my "real life everyday number" is between 5900 and 6000 lbs. That includes dealer installed running boards, a bed liner, TracRac railes, a Yakima bike rack, my personal items, fuel, and a small toolbox and other items in the bed. Still haven't figured how that figure grows so quickly, but my weight is a big percentage of the gain....close to 200 lbs. Using that "realistic" payload figure of 1200 lbs., after adding a 700 lb. tongue weight, the missus and dog, and camping gear and generator to the bed, I am still under my GVWR by 100 lbs. or so. The truck travels well with that weight.

I think the best thing for thestrangbrew to do is to load up the family and expected camping gear in the truck and head to some scales. That will give a true weight and additional payload that can be added, ie a trailer tongue.
I think weighing it would be the best thing for me to do to determine how much weight I could get. The truck comes with 20" rims which is where I think I'd be losing +/-300lbs load. We don't have a ton of gear so throwing everything into the trailer would be ok. Curb weight would be 7350-1212 = 6138 roughly, which I still think is high. Gotta find a scale near me.
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Do you have the standard tow package? Also, just curious, what is the GVWR on the 23ss? I'm assuming it's similar to the 231kss - ~6500 lbs?
Yes, it is the regular tow package, HD tow is ONLY with the 3.73 diff. The difference between regular hand HD tow is the diff., an upgraded bumper, and the 'donkey ear' mirrors. The brake controller is also included with HD, but it's extra on the regular tow. I had them throw one in as part of the deal.

The 23SS is at around 6350 GVWR. There's one less slide.
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Glad the advice here is pretty much the same as over on the Ecoboost forum.
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