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Old 06-14-2016, 10:28 AM   #1
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Confused About Weights

Hi there! My husband and I are new to the "camper" world. We are back packers by nature but our bodies are revolting against that method so we're looking at the next best thing.

We are hoping to buy one of the new A Frame Rockwood's this summer. However, we're a bit confused as to whether our vehicle will support the weight of the A122. (I know - don't throw stones at me please! I'm asking "that" question!)

I've used the schnazzy calculator provided in this forum but I feel like I'm entering something wrong because it's telling me the vehicle cannot tow anything at all which I know is inaccurate as the owners manual clearly states it can. Surely I'm doing something incorrectly.

We own a 2010 Mazda CX7 2.5 liter. Any advice? I have a call in to the dealership but...as eloquently pointed out in a thread by red.jimbo - I'm trying to collect as many "opinions" as I can by experienced people to form my own opinion on what we should do.

Ideally, we'd like to upgrade to a truck or full size SUV next year when my car is paid off but looking to get the camper this year and use it with the Mazda.

Thanks for any advice - info you all can provide! We're super excited to join the FROG nation!

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Old 06-14-2016, 10:44 AM   #2
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You're not going to like this answer. Your vehicle is rated at 1500 lbs tow rating. The A122 is about 2000 lbs UNLOADED. Keep in mind that you'll add a few hundred lbs to a loaded unit and you'll also loose a few lbs off the tow rating depending on how much is in the car (tow rating is usually calculated by the difference in vehicle curb weight and the GCWR, so...the more you put in it, the less overall weight you have left). I wouldn't say you can't tow anything, but you're going to be extremely limited...probably in the 1200 lbs dry weight range.
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Old 06-14-2016, 10:51 AM   #3
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The calculators are near correct in your case. Looking up your tow vehicle it has a towing capacity of 1500 max. An A frame is in the 2000 range once loaded and ready to camp.

I wouldn't say it cant tow anything but it will probably be hard to find something it can tow.

Also look at payload weight, I would bet you are limited on that as well. The payload info is on the sticker in the drivers door jam with the tire info.
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Old 06-14-2016, 10:57 AM   #4
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Think small, then go smaller. It's easy to overload the tow vehicle and don't believe the sales pitch...there's a big difference in being able to "can" do something and should do something. I'm set at about 75-80% of max weights with my tow vehicle / trailer (2014 Tundra / 2016 Surveyor 251RKS) payload / towing.
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Old 06-14-2016, 11:12 AM   #5
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Ugh...so frustrating

Just got off the phone with lead mechanic for Mazda at Dealership. He looked in the book with me and it shows a GCWR (Gross Combo Weight Rating) of vehicle and camper of 5569. He said although the max trailer rating is 1500 lbs, he said it would be ok. We obviously wouldn't want to load it down with potable water and extra weight we don't need.

We're also looking at a Sunray Mini 190 - which is incredibly dinky and would do for what we need but I'd rather have the Rockwood because it's awesome and we wouldn't need to upgrade again for many years.

We are pretty minimalist since we are used to back packing. We also are not planning to go on long trips - only within an hour or 2 away. We're in flat land Indiana as well so it would be unlikely we'd be towing on grades larger than an over pass.

Given we'll be upgrading vehicles within the next year, I wonder if it would be a massively huge deal or a massively bad idea. ??
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Take your Mazda to get weighed. Load it with you, hubby, pets, and anything that you would typically carry in the vehicle while camping.

Truck stops, bulk supply places, dumps all have scales. Get numbers and make an educated decision.

Once you know your weight, subtract it from the GCWR and see what's left over.
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Old 06-14-2016, 11:29 AM   #7
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Take your Mazda to get weighed. Load it with you, hubby, pets, and anything that you would typically carry in the vehicle while camping.

Truck stops, bulk supply places, dumps all have scales. Get numbers and make an educated decision.

Once you know your weight, subtract it from the GCWR and see what's left over.
That ....is actually genius. So simple!!!!! Thank you!!!!
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Take your Mazda to get weighed. Load it with you, hubby, pets, and anything that you would typically carry in the vehicle while camping.

Truck stops, bulk supply places, dumps all have scales. Get numbers and make an educated decision.

Once you know your weight, subtract it from the GCWR and see what's left over.
To take this one step further, let's pretend you've found a camper that you like with a GVWR of 1500 lbs. multiply that by 12 to 15% to get the proper tongue weight (that's 180 to 225 lbs). Will THAT fit in what's left over?
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Ugh...so frustrating

Just got off the phone with lead mechanic for Mazda at Dealership. He looked in the book with me and it shows a GCWR (Gross Combo Weight Rating) of vehicle and camper of 5569. He said although the max trailer rating is 1500 lbs, he said it would be ok.
Just looking at the published curb weights, that looks closer to the numbers on the 2.3L turbo model with the 2000 lb rating. At any rate, and I'm not one of those people that freak out if I were to be 50 lbs over a rating, but you're going to be upwards of 150% of your tow rating with that combo....not ok. It's not just the power, but stopping and steering as well.
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