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Old 05-30-2013, 08:52 AM   #1
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Does anyone have any info on towing this rv with a 2009 F-150? My owners manual says it has a towing capacity of 11,300. The rv weighs approx. 9,000 empty. I want to buy this rv and am researching if i need a bigger truck.
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Old 05-30-2013, 09:08 AM   #2
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Absolutely you need a bigger truck!

It's not towing capacity that matters for RV's. It's pin weight (or tongue weight) compared to your Cargo Carrying Capacity (GVWR - weight of truck and passengers and other cargo). Rear GAWR must be considered as well.

For a 5er, the pin weight will be between 15% and 25% of the LOADED weight (not dry weight). For this trailer, that's .25 * 11900 = 2975 pounds. Oh, and don't forget about the weight of the 5th wheel hitch.
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Old 05-30-2013, 09:09 AM   #3
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Could an F-150 pull it? Probably, with great effort. Could a 1/2 ton truck stop it safely? No.
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Highly recommend a 3/4 ton or bigger for the 295RST. In fact; most here will advise not to pull any 5th wheel with a 1/2 ton truck. Many threads on this topic...
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Old 05-30-2013, 11:49 AM   #4
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Absolutely you need a bigger truck!

It's not towing capacity that matters for RV's. It's pin weight (or tongue weight) compared to your Cargo Carrying Capacity (GVWR - weight of truck and passengers and other cargo). Rear GAWR must be considered as well.

For a 5er, the pin weight will be between 15% and 25% of the LOADED weight (not dry weight). For this trailer, that's .25 * 11900 = 2975 pounds. Oh, and don't forget about the weight of the 5th wheel hitch.
Thanks for the info, i figured a bigger truck and i knew u guys would have the experience to send me down the right road.
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Could an F-150 pull it? Probably, with great effort. Could a 1/2 ton truck stop it safely? No.
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Trailer should stop the same whether 1/2T or 3/4T, I would definitely not put that much pin wt in any 1/2T or 3/4T.
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Old 05-31-2013, 10:14 PM   #6
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I have a 2013 295RST and have had it weighed. The trailer weight is 10,500# loaded for camping with a 2,000# pin weight. I pull it with a 3/4 ton GMC. Total for truck and trailer is 17,500#.
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Trailer should stop the same whether 1/2T or 3/4T, I would definitely not put that much pin wt in any 1/2T or 3/4T.
Most reasonable folks would agree that a larger truck with beefier brakes and sturdier frame will stop a large trailer much more comfortably and safely than the 1/2 ton counterpart. Most 3/4 ton (and larger) truck owners will attest that a downhill 'panic stop' from 55 mph or so is uncomfortable at best. That large trailer will control the smaller truck in a similar panic stop scenario.

Based on the responses to your inquiry, the trailer you are considering is too much for a 1/2 ton truck. Consider your family's safety and the safety of fellow travelers. Matching the trailer's profile to the TV's designed capabilities/specs are important parts of the buying process. Once you've purchased, get used to the pulling/driving experience; then hit the road and have some fun...
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Sound advice here.

Buy the trailer!, but get a 3/4 ton truck to tow it with. You won't be sorry.
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Could an F-150 pull it? Probably, with great effort. Could a 1/2 ton truck stop it safely? No.
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Forget the 3/4 ton and go right to the 1 ton. Not much difference in cost and even with a 3/4 ton you'll be pushing payload and next you'll be asking about airbags or sleeper springs. I speak from experience.
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