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Old 02-22-2016, 02:27 PM   #1
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Question Cushioned 5th wheel hitch AND pin box?

We are going to be upgrading in the near future to a 5th wheel from our 35' Windjammer, and I have no experience with hitches or pin boxes. We will be buying a new Sierra 1 ton diesel dually, and the 5th wheels were are looking at are about 16K to 18K GVWR with what I estimate to be loaded pin weights in the 3,500-4,500# range.

My question is do I need both the hitch and pin box to be cushioned or shock absorbing, or perhaps just the pin box? We do not off road, but like everyone, run across some campground roads that are less than maintained and highways that are very rough. We will not be full-time so I want to have the ability to remove the hitch completely from the truck bed leaving it flat for carrying lumber, etc. I was looking at the B&W Turnover ball with the Companion hitch and the Lippert Tri Glide Air Ride pin box. Will these work together? I would really like to do this right the first time if possible and reduce the chucking I hear about.
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I was looking at the B&W Turnover ball with the Companion hitch and the Lippert Tri Glide Air Ride pin box. Will these work together? I would really like to do this right the first time if possible and reduce the chucking I hear about.
This is the setup that I have. I still get more movement in the truck than I expected with the new pin box (I previously had a fixed pin). I don't know if what I'm feeling is normal or not, though. I've never ridden with someone else towing and this is my first fifth wheel.
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Ependydad, is it better than the fixed pin though?
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Ependydad, is it better than the fixed pin though?
Yes, but not $1,500 better. I'm just glad I didn't pay for it.
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I have the bd3 air hitch.

I like it. A lot. Absorbs all the chucking and bumps from the trailer.
I also have some sort of trail air pinbox.

Was it worth what I paid? Maybe.
Sure. I think so.


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Kenny, it looks like it sits on rails in the bed. Are those meant to be easily removable? I want the hitch to be easily removable and leave the bed flat for other uses. That was why I liked the B&W Companion with the Turnover gooseneck ball.
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I have an Airbox Revolution hitch and a regular pin box. Watching the hitch work when traveling reassures me that it takes a lot of stress off the 5er and truck. Do not use both an air hitch and an air pin box together. It will be like bouncing two basket balls together.
Are they pricey, yes. but I plan to keep the rig for a while and to me it is worth the cost.
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Dave, that is exactly what I thought would happen if both were cushioned. Thanks for the comment
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Kenny, it looks like it sits on rails in the bed. Are those meant to be easily removable? I want the hitch to be easily removable and leave the bed flat for other uses. That was why I liked the B&W Companion with the Turnover gooseneck ball.

Depending on the truck.
I have a short box, and I also have a slider.
The rails stay. Never bothered me.

Long boxes with the fifth wheel prep, there is a adapter for the Hensley to keep the empty floor.


It's got close to 6" of travel.
That makes for an amazing ride.



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This is the pinbox I was going to get if I had kept my 5er.
Ultra Fab TrailAir Air Ride 5th Wheel King Pin Box Lippert 1621 2..
Now, if I was to do it all over again and knew I would stay with a fifth wheel, I would have gotten an Air Safe hitch and possibly a tri-glide pinbox. I had rails in the bed of my Sierra 3500 and had cut the plastic bedliner around them, it made for a near flat bed. I never had any problems hauling anything, and I hauled everything.
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