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Old 07-21-2014, 10:22 PM   #1
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Did I just make a huge mistake?

So, the wife and I have been looking into pop-ups for a few years now and finally decided on one and made the purchase over the weekend. (Haven't picked it up yet)

While researching we took into account we would be able to tow with her 2011 Subaru Outback - According to the documentation, 2700 lbs trailer weight.

With this in mind, we went with the Rockwood 1910 with the following specs:
Ship Weight: 1944 lbs
Hitch Weight: 245 lbs

The Outback has a GVWR of 4585 and a curb weight of 3495. So, factoring in the weight of the family at the current time (approx 500lbs) and the hitch weight that still leaves 345 lbs of misc. cargo.

(Again, first time pop-up owner so if I'm doing these calculations wrong please correct me)

Anyway. I'm browsing some other forums and came across a thread where someone mentioned that Subaru does a little trick where the maximum hitch weight does not fit their window of trailer weight percentage... so I checked it out myself (yes I violated the first rule of this section of the forum by not reading it cover to cover first)

According to the manual hitch load should be 8-11% of the trailer weight... the 1910 is a bit heavy as 11% would be 214 pounds. However, the problem is there's a maximum hitch weight of 200 lbs.

So, my question is the title of this thread... Did I just make a huge mistake?

Follow up question... if maximum trailer weight for the Outback is 2700 lbs and they state 8-11% of the trailer weight be on the hitch... but that can only be 200 lbs, isn't that some crazy math?

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Old 07-21-2014, 10:32 PM   #2
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We seem to use (10-15%) here you are a (Little Light)? Youroo!!That is for T/W!
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:10 PM   #3
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Just my opinion, but even if you are within your weight specs, you don't have enough vehicle for towing what you want to tow. Can you do it? Probably, yes. Should you do it? Probably not. All Subarus are AWD, all the time, and that's a lot of extra stress on your drivetrain, not to mention the fact that you have a unibody vehicle without a real "frame." Then you start packing gear into the pop-up, and suddenly that 1944 pounds becomes well north of 2000 pounds.

Call me old fashioned, but I'm not a big fan of towing anything with an AWD or FWD transmission/driveline. People do it all the time, and then wonder why they're having transmission issues a year later.

You'd be better off with a small pickup for what you're doing--a Tacoma, Durango, Ranger, S10, Frontier, etc. You can get those farily cheap used, and not ruin her Sub.

Good luck!
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:17 PM   #4
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My old way of thinking would be to hitch up and go. Check a Subaru Outback forum and see how people are making out there towing.
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Old 07-22-2014, 02:19 AM   #5
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Maybe... It'll be a wild ride, but doable if you are careful.
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Old 07-22-2014, 05:35 AM   #6
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Is your ball located on the bumper? If so that is where you will see that written. That's because of the location and cheap bumpers. What you could do is add a receiver welded to your frame. I U-Haul dealer can do that. Post #4 is also a good idea.
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Old 07-22-2014, 06:39 AM   #7
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Also, on eTrailer.com, there are hitches with higher ratings.

http://www.etrailer.com/hitch-2011_S...back+Wagon.htm

Again, I would see how others are making out on a Subaru forum.
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Old 07-22-2014, 09:18 AM   #8
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So wait... Is the hitch/tongue weight rating based just on the hitch itself? I have an aftermarket (UHaul) hitch on it with a rating of 600 lbs.
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Old 07-22-2014, 09:28 AM   #10
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The hitch rating is just the hitch.

You can weld a 12,000 pound rated hitch to your Subaru and it won't change a thing.

IMO, use the Subaru to tow the new camper home (empty) and go shopping for something a bit more robust to take it camping.

You will find out pretty darn quick whether you want to try it loaded on the drive home.
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