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05-07-2015, 04:28 PM
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Just throwing out there that in a toy hauler your tongue weight is probably going to go down, not up...assuming you are loading something in the garage.
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05-07-2015, 04:30 PM
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All the WDH I have see from equalizer are rated with the bars at 10% the max hitch weight.
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05-07-2015, 05:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Vibe
All the WDH I have see from equalizer are rated with the bars at 10% the max hitch weight.
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Darn and I am confusing Pullrite (my current 5th wheel hitch) with Equalizer, my 14K hitch sitting in the garage. The contacts below are for anyone interested in an awesome slider hitch. (embarrased)
So, are the bars rated at their torsion distribution rating or the maximum tongue load? Me thinks the 10% you mention is the maximum amount of distribution before the bars are damaged. The hitch would need to be rated so as to safely tow a 14,000 pound camper in the safe tongue weight range.
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05-07-2015, 05:48 PM
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Site Team - Lou
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Originally Posted by RooVader
Just throwing out there that in a toy hauler your tongue weight is probably going to go down, not up...assuming you are loading something in the garage.
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This is true all things being equal. However, as the total camper weight goes up by adding weight behind the wheels, you will need to shift cargo more forward in order to keep the tongue weight in the safe towing range (10-14%).
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05-08-2015, 03:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Herk7769
So, are the bars rated at their torsion distribution rating or the maximum tongue load? Me thinks the 10% you mention is the maximum amount of distribution before the bars are damaged. The hitch would need to be rated so as to safely tow a 14,000 pound camper in the safe tongue weight range.
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Reese does this too - suggests 10 percent of the weight on the ball to determine the size of the spring bars. Anecdotally, many RVers with weight distributed bumper pulls will kick the bar capacity up a notch. Not much empirical stuff available to determine if that's an effective strategy as opposed to effectively distributing the TT's load.
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05-08-2015, 09:21 AM
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I just got off the phone with the dealer and they've agreed to refund me for the 10,000# hitch and cover the install of the 14,000# locally.
I'll have it installed by Camping World (any reviews on their quality for hitch installs?), but their price ($749) can be easily beaten with some online stores. Has anyone purchased from AdventureRV.net or RVWholesalers.com?
Also, every picture of the 14,000# hitch shows the hitch ball included, but the "also bought with this item" section always shows a 2 5/16" hitch ball. Does the ball come included?
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05-08-2015, 09:25 AM
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First time I've heard that, Herk (Lou?).
Head unit and bars come with labels that state the load capacity, not to exceed.
Can you point out a source that confirms that the bars are rated higher than what the labels state (1400 lbs per pair in this case)?
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05-08-2015, 09:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CampinDad
I just got off the phone with the dealer and they've agreed to refund me for the 10,000# hitch and cover the install of the 14,000# locally.
I'll have it installed by Camping World (any reviews on their quality for hitch installs?), but their price ($749) can be easily beaten with some online stores. Has anyone purchased from AdventureRV.net or RVWholesalers.com?
Also, every picture of the 14,000# hitch shows the hitch ball included, but the "also bought with this item" section always shows a 2 5/16" hitch ball. Does the ball come included?
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I used RVWholesalers.com
Ball is extra. Ordered mine online and did the install myself. Dont trust my dealer to do the install correctly.
Products ordered
SKU Product
14-2969 Equal-i-zer Hitch 1400/14000lbs Trailer Weight
14-8627 2 5/16 Equal-i-zer Ball 14K
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05-08-2015, 11:02 AM
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RVW for mine too.
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05-08-2015, 12:47 PM
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As far as where to buy, if they are fully refunding your 1000 lbs E2, take the money, and purchase 14K Equalizer 4pt Sway Control WDH from RVWholesalers. Unfortunately, I think you just missed their big sale, but if you call, they may still give you the lower price (?). Either way, I think they are as low as anyone, and free shipping. If you have a free Saturday, and are somewhat handle with basic tools, you can do this yourself, and likely do far better than the dealer.
I bought from them, and all was well. I did purchase the recommended ball that they had. It's not included.
The only thing you need, other than basic tools, is the large socket. Must either be thin-wall, or remove the square bar sockets for clearance with a standard socket.
If you have access to torque wrenches at about 350ft-lbs, and 450 ft-lbs, great! If not, be prepared with a long breaker bar, and do the math.
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05-08-2015, 03:36 PM
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Tractor supply has socket for the ball cheap,
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07-09-2015, 01:04 PM
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carbon 33 hitch
Campindad
We are looking to purchasing a Carbon 33 and would like a review as to how the equalizer hitch is working for you and how do you like the Toy Hauler. Thank you!!
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07-09-2015, 07:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Herk7769
Ah, toyhauler. That explains the 4000 payload.
Just for your info, the tongue weight spread is much lower for a travel trailer.
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My travel trailer has a payload of just over 4300 lbs. it is not a toy hauler.
http://www.forestriverinc.com/produc...elID=1283#Main
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07-09-2015, 10:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CampinDad
I just got off the phone with the dealer and they've agreed to refund me for the 10,000# hitch and cover the install of the 14,000# locally.
I'll have it installed by Camping World (any reviews on their quality for hitch installs?), but their price ($749) can be easily beaten with some online stores. Has anyone purchased from AdventureRV.net or RVWholesalers.com?
Also, every picture of the 14,000# hitch shows the hitch ball included, but the "also bought with this item" section always shows a 2 5/16" hitch ball. Does the ball come included?
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Another RVW customer. Before I was a diehard RVW fan I ordered a 10k Equalizer from Adventure RV. It was banged up and showed signs of having been installed but not used- marks on bolt holes, etc. I returned it and ordered one from RVW and have been buying my parts (and my campers) from them ever since.
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