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Old 01-03-2018, 09:57 AM   #61
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one thing that i think ram has over the others is the ability to fill the def next to the diesel neck. i beleive GM fills the def under the hood?
Yes, on the passenger side under the hood. Along the firewall. An inconvenient location. Especially since I have a 4x4 (stock), and at 5'9", it is within my reach, but not much more.

I understand maybe the reasoning of preventing a possible fill from the wrong nozzle, but with different sizes, it really shouldn't be that big of an issue. It would be sooooo much better if it was like the Ram, or any medium duty diesel trucks. I mean, how many truck stops have the DEF nozzle on the right side?

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Old 01-03-2018, 01:07 PM   #62
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It would be better if we didn't need DEF at all! Love my truck anyway. Just need the DW to retire so we could start using it more often and for longer longer trips.
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Old 01-03-2018, 02:20 PM   #63
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It would be better if we didn't need DEF at all! Love my truck anyway. Just need the DW to retire so we could start using it more often and for longer longer trips.


No you don't. DEF and the technology that uses DEF is far better than the diesel emission technology we had on these trucks before DEF. Regeneration of the DPF filter and the fuel dilution that can take place plus the consist heavy use of the exhaust gas recirculating into the air intake is hard on these engines.

I agree no emission controls would be great but we can't go back in time. So, the technology that uses DEF for now is the best we have.
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The answer isn't getting rid of the DEF system but rather improving it. I certainly don't mind paying a bit more so my truck pollutes a bit less. Pre-DEF diesels STINK.
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Old 01-03-2018, 02:27 PM   #65
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Yes, on the passenger side under the hood. Along the firewall. An inconvenient location. Especially since I have a 4x4 (stock), and at 5'9", it is within my reach, but not much more.

I understand maybe the reasoning of preventing a possible fill from the wrong nozzle, but with different sizes, it really shouldn't be that big of an issue. It would be sooooo much better if it was like the Ram, or any medium duty diesel trucks. I mean, how many truck stops have the DEF nozzle on the right side?

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I know I am in the minority here but I like the fill under the hood. I buy the 2 1/2 gal jugs and just set it on the air filter box, bend the provided tube down into the fill tube and tip the jug back and let it fill. As it emptys then I just lift it up to finish out the rest.
But I'm strange
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Old 01-03-2018, 05:50 PM   #66
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I know I am in the minority here but I like the fill under the hood. I buy the 2 1/2 gal jugs and just set it on the air filter box, bend the provided tube down into the fill tube and tip the jug back and let it fill. As it emptys then I just lift it up to finish out the rest.
But I'm strange
That is what I do, but it would sure be nice to just use the hose at the truck stop pump, and do both at the same time when needed. With a lot less fuss.

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Old 01-03-2018, 05:57 PM   #67
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Ford F250, 5.7 power stroke has the DEF fill next to its fuel fill.
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Old 01-03-2018, 06:26 PM   #68
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I prefer to fill the DEF tank at the pump after filling the fuel tank. Much easier ~ no stretch or climbing.
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That is what I do, but it would sure be nice to just use the hose at the truck stop pump, and do both at the same time when needed. With a lot less fuss.

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I will concede that if I filled up at truck stops/businesses that had def pumps I might feel different, but considering there are zero stations anywhere in my area with them and this is my daily driver, I prefer NOT to hold a 2.5 gal jug when I add Def.
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No you don't. DEF and the technology that uses DEF is far better than the diesel emission technology we had on these trucks before DEF. Regeneration of the DPF filter and the fuel dilution that can take place plus the consist heavy use of the exhaust gas recirculating into the air intake is hard on these engines.

I agree no emission controls would be great but we can't go back in time. So, the technology that uses DEF for now is the best we have.


I don’t mind paying more for the def fluid I just want the def to work like it’s supposed too. I have any more problems with def on my Silverado the def is coming off. It will probably be my last truck anyway and where I live at the state doesn’t do a emission test.
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